Villan just was moved to my table and in the couple orbits I have seen him play he is very aggressive, called an all in with a K8 flush (which he lost to an Ax bigger flush) and pushed all in with a J10 and was called by a A8 to hit a J on the river for the pot.
In a tourney and the blinds are at 200-400

Hero: 8,000
Villan 6,200

Villan raises from the button to 1000 and I call from the BB with KQ and the flop comes:

6 Q K
(2,200)

I check because he has been so aggresive I wanted to go for a check raise here (I realize here should have probably been a C-bet with the straight and flush draw on the board, but I really seen him betting here), He bets 1,100 and I raise him to 3,200. He then pushed all in with 6,000 total and I called.

The turn:
4

River:
6

Is there any way I can fold the fold here? I fell like I played this hand bad : /

Yeah you played it pretty horrible. C/r is fine but go for a min raise only. Fold to the shove since he'll have 66 90% of the time and KK or QQ the other 10%.

Would check calling on the flop be a better or even cbetting

I would lead the flop here and hope for a spazz. I would absolutely never fold here.

As played - cooler.

Well... as played and with reads i don't see how you can find a fold there, you are ahead of his probable button range and a slight favorite against apair+flush draw.

If we assume 0 FE when he has a draw, is there an advantage to building the pot early? I mean, we know villain is stubborn with a draw, will call all day everyday with non nut flushes... why not let him control the flop betting and take control on a safe turn? he's going to pay us off and will likely bet bet bet, but his odds of hitting on the river are less than his combined turn+river odds, so we may pick up some FE on the turn as well... but this passive play will cost you value even if it helps you lose the least.

As far as I can tell you played it right (defined as monies in while ahead) and can chalk it up to variance, you won't be in a coin flip or behind there nearly as often as you'll be the favorite to a laggy button raise.

+1

MUBS (Monsters Under the Bed)

I don't play tournaments much but this might even be a shove pre.

vs aggro villain whom likes to call I don't think so. He'll go with any ace and most pp, and some face cards, but this range is ahead of your KQo and I think you have little FE once he's bet.


I think calling is the best option and then getting it in when good on a flop and folding most of the time when missing.

OP played hand standard (whether to c/r or b/c flop can be discussed, but both are reasonable vs aggro villain) and got it in ahead on flop.

Folding this hand on that flop would be worse than the recent tsunami in Japan.

Thanks everyone! I knew there was maybe a better way to play it but I was kind of bummed about this hand and was maybe being slightly results oriented. I am just in one of those downswings and this has happened for the past month at this particular tourney and I was starting to doubt myself.

Go to the right forum and read the FAQ. If you have to ask this question you don't understand the fundamentals of the game and people here saying "yeah, you played it fine" won't change that.

Umm excuse me? I understand fundamentals. I posted this hand because I felt like it was a fold and was bummed because I thought I played it wrong and should have folded. How am I supposed to know if I played it fine if I don't post it? Isn't that what this forum is all about? Obv there is advice to be given seeing how every reply takes a different line. I understand you are a "veteran" and that should have been a very standard play in your eyes. I think it would be cooler if you shared that skill with me instead of wasting your time playing forum police officer.

No you don't. But you can get better if you look in the right place. I'm not playing forum police, but like anybody who is actually going to improve you need to do the vast majority of the work yourself. You found 2+2 which is good. You couldn't find the right forum which is bad, then you took offence at my perfectly reasonable advice.

There is nothing wrong with not knowing whether you played this right. You are indeed correct to post it but you need somebody to explain in very clear terms [U]why[U] this is such a simple spot and here is not the place.

Wrong forum because this is for live cash games. Tournaments are elsewhere.

Standard because a draw is automatically a dog vs. a made hand.

Also, in a tournament, this call is easier than in a cash game and the reasons behind the difference vary.

It is because of these reasons that you are not viewed as understanding the fundamentals.

Last, you really need a thicker skin. I understand your getting upset, but you really need to learn to not let it bother you. Besides, the guy you got mad at was right and you were wrong.

I re-read your post and realize that I am over-reacting to what you actually said. I see you were just posting help and I took your "not knowing fundamentals" to heart. I do realize I played it pretty standard but as I said I am just in a downswing that is starting to make me rethink hands I would never even usually think twice about. I appreciate you help and will do better to realize what forum I am posting in.

Thanks again everyone.

I like a smallish raise on the flop to try to get him to go crazy with complete air.
He would be raising your smallish raise if he had a K anyway and your getting value from a Q he may not be betting

With less than 12-13 big blinds after calling the raise you should be looking to jam any flop you miss or hits you light.

But since you hit a monster I would go for a check-raise or a standard bet.