I think both of these hands have the same problem, overvaluing marginal holding on multi-way pot.

Hand 1:
Kjo
240bb
Lp

pre: two limpers from mp. I raise to 20. Get 5 callers total. Typical loose-passive table, including 1-2 nits.

Flop: adkd7h. I bet 60. 1 call from one of the limpers OOP. Asian relatively unknown. Recently joined the table. I haven't played against him earlier. Overheard him talking about hands with a regular giving me a wibe he's also reg. Later in the evening I see him later going bust with q9o on a preflop all in against table maniac.
Turn: 2h. Check. Check.
River: as. He bets all in for 200ish. I fold.

Q: Should check-fold flop, bet turn and/or call river? ap is bet sizing ok?

Hand 2:
Astc
400bb
Utg+1

Pre: I raise to 7.5. Get 5 callers. Typical loose-passive table, including 1-2 nits.
Flop: 7sts2d. I bet 22.5. Get called by one opponent IP.
Turn: 4s. I bet 57.5. Get called.
River: 2h. I bet 107.5. Get called. Villain shows 9s3s

Q: Should I check-call turn, ap should I check-fold river? sizing issues?

Thanks. After starting to take poker more seriously, 2+2 has been the most helpful place to improve my game.

H1: c/f flop
H2 open is pretty marginal imo, would size it bigger if I were to play it

AP Bigger otf calling ranges are inelastic, checking turn with As in my hand



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Hand 1 - if opening to $20 here nets you 5 callers, you should probably increase your opening size. You want to thin the field to 1/2 callers in these spots. As played, I would check this flop through. You've got 5 opponents and an A out there, betting here isn't going to get any better to fold so youre kind of isolating yourself against better hands. Depending on turn action and who bets, I might call a turn bet but likely just releasing this.

Hand 2 - ATo isn't a great EP open, and if you're going to play it at all from that spot you need to raise bigger. Otherwise you're just going to be OOP in a multiway raised pot with an unsuited hand that can suffer from dominance issues. Not ideal.

Fold pre both hands if your table has nits & passive fit-fold players.

Maybe don't c-bet an A-hi flop 6-way when you don't have an ace.

H2 fold pre.

H1: OMG what are you doing on the flop? Betting middle pair into 5 other people on an A-high board? That's just suicide. Don't do that ever again.

H2: Open pre is fine. It's a marginal spot pre with the way the table is playing, though. Probably barely +EV at best as this is normally the bottom of your range in UTG, but on this table it should be the bottom of your range in UTG+1. Tighten up your EP range on this type of table. Once V calls the flop, I'm not sure what you accomplish in betting the turn. He was either floating spades or you're crushing him. Instead, you tried to get 3 streets of value which is just really bad with middle pair/top kicker. Check/call or check/fold the turn, V dependent. If you call turn and he bets river again behind you, it's a fold at this table.

Thank you for feedback everyone. MW pots in loose-passive table are very big leak for me. Hopefully getting this feedback helps. To conclude: I should narrow down my opening range and raise bigger preflop when table dynamic shifts to loose-passive. I should also stop raising marginal holdings in a multi way flop and going for value in spots I'm clearly wa/wb.

H2 I don't mind checking the river after you bet the turn. With the As I might check turn and call river.

There are a lot of smaller 10's you can get value from plus hands like 89.

As played check river, I think it was to thin unless you see this player calling a bet with K10 -j10.