V and I have a ton of history together, (he loves to steal my blinds when he's button, and I don't make it easy) he respects all of my substantial raises, floats my flop raises, but has folded some incredible hands to me (folded flushes on paired boards, folded on a AKQJT board when the river brought a flush), you name it. I've called off river bets with pocket 4s when his line is full of it, and I've laid down AK on A64 board when he checkraised me all in because I know i'm not good there. I'm not saying I've never made bad reads vs him, but in general we are both very similar players and i think we manage to avoid costly situations vs each other when hands are delicate. V will almost exclusively checkraise top 2 +, will call off top pair and raise on turn if he thinks he's good. I've never seen him lead out with 2p+ on a flop - he always opts for a checkraise.

Sorry for the tl;dr.

Eff: Stacks 600, playing 2/3 500 max bi.

Hand:

Villain raises to 14 from the BTN, SB folds, and I call with 8T. Pot is 25.

flop Q57

I donk 20 into the pot with the explicit intention of two barreling. Board is literally the driest board and I can justify betting queens and 7s vs villain, because my calling range is probably only slightly less wide compared to his BTN range. Villain calls 20.

Turn 5 Pot 65

I lead 50 with the intent of b/f river. I think that his range is wide enough that 3 barreling can shake a weak Qx on a river, especially with the paired board. My lead is not representing a 5, but we both have enough behind that I can size a decent representation of trips on the river if I need to. I've got a spade draw now and I can continue with a PSB if I hit on the river, with a slightly < PSB on the river if it blanks. Villain calls 50.

River 4 Pot 165

I lead for 130. This is purely for value and I'm certain my range is much farther ahead than his at this point. There are no hands in his range that are sensical and that beat me, and I would have heard from Q5 on the turn, because Villain is good and knows that he should be looking to get a PSB all in on the river. If Villain's hand is good enough to call on the turn, I want to size my bet when I have a 5 card hand that would appropriately look like it could be a weak Queen, A7, or a bluff. If I miss here, I think I would go for the value heavy bet of 225. I don't overbet bluff often and Villain knows I have a penchant to overbet the nuts on the river.

Basically, history here is the reason that I played this hand the way I did. It wasn't until the river that I bet with the intention of extracting maximum value. I am curious as to all your opinions on how you would play the hand, given the sparse information I've provided :/

If you have any other questions regarding his / my style, let me know on here and I'll do my best to further explain it.

assuming you are in the BB. the call pf is going to get a lot of heat I'm sure but if you called expecting to donk out on the flop there is nothing wrong with that creative play. However you would have had to fold unimproved, I don't know why you would want to double barrel it with air.

I like the river bet, and hopefully you have in your mind what your doing to a raise on the paired board.

What is V calling with here? Qx/5X? I agree the fact that you have history with V allows you to 'discount' the flush and value bet here. Against unknown V I would tend to give the fact that the board flushed out more thought if I was the V trying to make a call.

When a V doesn't give a r/r flush a second thought I tend to pay more attention before I make a decision.

Has V ever c/r bluffed a River? Are you calling all-in here? You tell us you have bet sizing tells that V knows about. Is he more likely to fold to this bet or a larger bet .. or a smaller bet? Is he more likely to 'think' you want him to fold to a bet this size and call wider?

I think you played fine and I think you were playing poker and ended up with a hand anyway .. nice!!

I donk into V I have history with all the time, but I wouldn't expect to get 3 streets of value very often in this spot against my image with that bet size. I would have to keep it under $100 since I would give some r/r respect if I had 5x/AQ here. GL

holy fps, batman.

firing 3rd when u miss seems like suicide. also, you said that u were thinking if u got there youd be making psb obv looking for call....but <psb when u miss expecting to get a fold while repping a super narrow range??

seems like you are just playing fancy/battling not really thinking clearly and then justifying your line after the fact.

some people think there is some magical line they can take in every hand to win the pot regardless of board texture and opponents hand (as long as its not the nuts). this is simply not true.