Hawaii home game, 1-3NL uncapped byin, 650 behind, table is above average action at the moment.

I have two black 8's in the CO and UTG, EP, MP, MP, and HJ all limp to me. I raise to $20.

the BB and every limper call.

Flop is Q62

Everyone checks to me, I check.

As i'm repeating "eight of diamonds" over and over in my head, the 8 slams the turn. BB then decides to bet $50, then it's folded to MP, who makes it $120 to go. Hero?

Bother players have about 1k in front, both of them are capable of GII with 1pair and flush draw hand, neither player is capable of getting it in with just a flush draw.

Should I 3bet and stack off or call and allow the BB to come along with top pair and flush draw type hands?

$360.

Yea it sucks when you have to take face up lines that even the cocktail waitress knows but the turn is the place to get value here so you have to raise unless you have a LOCK read bb is 3betting flop.

Also nice work on willing the 8, I love doing that. Don't use it all up though save it for the right spots.

It's nice when you hold the one hand you represent because it looks so bluffy/unlikely. I would go for it and shove here.

Would a minraise to 190 keep a flush draw and 2 pairs hand in the pot?

Assuming BB has a FD and MP has 2p? Which puts the pot $690. Assuming the FD misses the river (86%), you could probably extract another $250??? In value from 2p?

I'm assuming we're raising just to juice the pot so we can play for stacks if we hit? With these large stacks, maybe not a bad idea. But I don't think we have to make it so much. If we ~minraised to like $10 this would create a $70 pot, so an SPR of 9 which would make it easy to get stacks in. Heck, even a raise to $8 would create an SPR of 11.5 (where stacks could be played for with PSBs in position). The raise of $20 (which has zero chance of thinning this field, right?) is overkill and makes it more expensive for us than it needs to be, imo. At an action table, I'd typically just overlimp, and even with a huge SPR I'm guessing we'd have a chance of still playing for stacks (or at least decent percentages of them) postflop, especially in position.

I'm guessing there's still a chance our hand is best on this flop, even though we're eleventeen ways? Especially since so multiway rarely does everyone check to the raiser on a drawy board and will often just donk their good hands to protect against the draws in a big pot? I might consider a smallish 1/3 PSB and see what happens; this pot is fricken huge, it is worth winning, and letting someone catch up for free (if we happen to be best) would be a pretty big mistake (course, so is putting in big money when we're drawing to 1 out, so another reason I'm not in love with preflop).

Pot is about $290 at this point, which is huge. I'm less worried about stringing some pairs / draws along than I am about making sure I don't do something completely stupid (like letting someone get there in a huge pot, and then maybe making a stupid hero fold or hero call on the river). I probably just jam, especially at an action table.

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If you 3-bet, they'll be like WTF and start thinking about what they're doing. Just flat to keep your perceived range wider and hope to get additional value on the next street.

If you 3-bet, just move in. If QQ trapped you, well, that's poker.

Pot is huge and it's almost all not your money. I'd shove for so many other reasons already listed, but the fact that it's almost 100bb profit even if you fold out everyone, which is worst case scenario (behind slowplayed QQ ofc) is so nice.

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