Villian 1 is a young white guy, plays for a living. Normally plays the bigger games, a lot of 5/5 Omaha. He is fearless, reads hands well, obv. capable of moves. Sometimes he plays super LAG, othertimes more snug. We have played together. He knows I am tight, possibly a bit nitty though not uber nit though.

Villain 2 plays every hand, pays off, is stuck like $1000 bucks at this point. He makes a lot of probe and blocking bets with weak hands. Raising largish pf with big hands and less with ''sweeteners''

Hero seen as tight winning player.

Hero has 96

Folded to Villian 1 ($400) in MP who looks like he is about to raise but then looks at Villian 2 ($400) and then calls, two more limpers, Villian 2 calls, hero checks from BB.

Flop ($10) AKK

Villian 1 bets $5, 2 folds, Villan 2 calls, hero calls.

Turn ($25): Q

Hero bets $25, Villian raises to $75, Villan 1 folds, hero folds.


I suck at poker.

how deep are we?

$1/2. We cover.

You pretty much said it all

Not betting the flop is bad. Given I checked, what now? Putting Villian 1 on a little suited ace, a king, a flush draw, or air. V2 can have anything. When it comes back to me I'm getting 4:1 with a flush draw and a donk in there who will call some sizeable bets.

The turn brings in my draw. Donk will call with a lot of stuff. What's my plan here?

I'm a bit confused about who is raising and folding on the turn.. Is the pro raising or the drooler? I think villain 1 morphed into villain and villain 2 morphed into villain 1, or...?

Villian 1 raised. Villian 2 folded

This.

If you are fairly deep, flat and probably check/call or check/fold with check/call being most likely.

meh. i don't think you played it that bad. you're only in because your big blind wasn't raised. b/f is the bread and butter play of low stakes. and on this board who knows where you stand. over flush is the biggest fear obviously. a hidden monster from lags who like to play fancy is a possibility.

i don't think folding is bad here. if for nothing else than we don't have a good read or a good plan for future streets and we don't want to get involved in a big pot with this hand in this position (unless you think these guys are so lag-gy that your equity vs their range is huge... then i guess check/call them for as much as they want)

Played perfectly. Flop is a check/call or check/fold (call as played). Turn is a bet/fold for value. Nice hand.

well played.

I don't think this is the kind of board that many pros are bluff -raising into two opponents often

OP, have you ever seen V1 get aggro and try to steal on scary boards and show up with air?

Against a guy playing every hand who also raises largish PF with his big hands, he should almost never have a boat here (maybe KQo, but might raise pre), and can have literally every flush in his range. We have the 3rd highest flush, and this guy can can easily have down to the 3-hi flush here. As such, we're sufficiently ahead of his range that the only real debate here is whether we call, or raise for value.

I just did some maths, and if his range is all flushes, as well as all KQ combos, we have 44% equity, and as such can profitably call turn and call river. However if we discount his KQ combos then we have 54% equity. Given that this is such a close spot equity wise, I'd imagine it's best to call turn and call river.

EDIT: My analysis is based upon V2 being the raiser OTT, if V1 raised OTT then it's a fold since his range contains almost no lower flushes, and can contain more boats given our live tell on him pre.

EDIT 2: Saw your post saying that V1 is the turn raiser, well played.

I gotta start doing a better job of editing my threads before I post them. ****s everybody up. I apologise again.

Some time back there was a hand where he opened for $15, a LAG called on the button, donk called in BB, flop came paired and low and he checked to LAG who bet a modest amount, BB folded, and he raised the pot which put the LAG all-in. He turned up with AK UI.

interesting, this makes me wonder a bit but i still think its a b/f on the whole. OOP, prospect of going broke in a limped pot, possibly drawing dead already, etc