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V is weak tight. Seen 3 bet to 4x pre with QQ+ AKs. Also saw him stack off 200 BB with JJ on an J high flush draw and over pair to a flopped set.

Hero 254 KK in CO. 2 limpers. H rs to 12. V 750 on BU calls. BB and first limper call.

Pot 51. Flop Q62r. Checks to H. H bets 50. BU c and rest fold. H has 206 behind. Heads up w/ V.

Pot 151. Turn 7. No flush draw. H bets 100. V goes all in H shoves rest 106.

River 7. V shows Q7o.

Did I play this wrong ? I'm trying to play exploitative so is there any thing I could have done different to get away from the hand?

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Raise pre is too small, I'd go at least $15 if not bigger with KK and 2 limpers. Unsurprising you ended up going 4-way, which is not what you want.

Flop bet is too big and setting you up to commit yourself here. I go 30.

Turn is OK. Once you bet $50 on the flop, you're close to committed, and when you bet $100 on the turn you really can't fold for $100 more.

NH. Sometimes your just gonna get stacked

So did you expect to get three streets of value with an overpair?

Did you bet the turn with the plan to shove the (non-A) river if V called?

What did you expect V to call with when you bet the turn?

When weak-tight V shoves turn, what sort of equity did you think you have?

Grunching - looks good to me. You might have bet more pre to minimize RIO vs. sets if the table was loose enough, but it's table dependent.

You should create a plan on the flop. You start with 250, there's 50 in the pot... First look at what happens if you pot every street... It would be 50, then 150, then 50 OTR. That's a bit awkward so you maybe you could overpot flop with plan of overpot shoving turn. On a board like this, though, we're mostly looking for Qx hands to call us and they're not going to think we're drawing.... So if we want stacks in by the river, I'd suggest something like 35 on the flop (then there's 120 in pot). 85 on turn (making 290 in pot). 140 on river. If you take this line and he raises your turn bet, I think you can - against the right player types - find a fold to a turn shove.

How does betting more on flop minimize RIO vs sets??

Don't post results in the OP, don't pot Q62r, snap call now.

Edit: Okay, sorry. I'll post something constructive. We should be betting smaller on dry boards as a standard. Our bluffs will be cheaper, our value Hands will get called wider, and the board is devoid of draws. Villains can safely fold pretty much everything worse than Qx and sets. Given the price we're getting on the turn, folding isn't really an option. By posting results in the OP, you may bias some posters and worsen potential discussion and it is typically advisable not to do this.

Seems reasonable. I usually bet 2/3 on bone dry flops but have been re-evaluating.

You planning to follow up your 30 with 60 on the turn and C/F on the river vs. weak/tight?

If you bet 25 pre and get stacked by 66 hitting a set, then so be it. RIO on flopping an overpair still there but less of a factor.

Oh your post said bet more on flop... But you meant bet more preflop.. I agree that that reduces implied odds of sets against us... But normally I think of RIO as situations where we improve, but because we improve we're willing to get more money in the pot, and therefore lose more when we're behind. E.g., 56s has RIO in hitting the flush cuz it could be up against a better flush. Raising A6o pre has RIO in hitting top pair because it could be up against a better ace. Etc.

Oh okay I see about posting results. I copied from my own notes and forgot to take out V hole cards.

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With a dry board I'd probably check turn and try to get my second street of value on the river.

What's "RIO" ?

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