Hi there , $1-3 splashy game ,

Villian is LAG young chinese, previous hand history ,
V opens in late position to $15 , 4 callers , board was 985, rainbow , i have 810 checks to V , cbets 25 , goes call , call , I raise in early position to $70 , V calls , heads up , turn is 5 , now 2 clubs on board , I lead $115 he flats , river 6 non club , goes check check he shows Q9 diamonds for the scoop

On to the real hand:
Hero has built it up through rebuy and some small pots to $650, villian has about $700
Hero Utg with 2 black QQ , I decide to limp, mid position makes it $20, V chinese lag makes it $50 , I 4b to $130 , v calls , we go heads up
Flop $280 : 683 rainbow, I lead $100 , V calls
Turn $480 : 9 I decide to check , V jams Allin , I have about $400ish left
Hero ???
I have been using alot of turn check backs lately to great effect and being able to induce , but honestly V can easily have me beat here too, what do you think of the line , and what do you think of this line in a heads up 4b pot with remaining stack sizes

Hate the limp. Just open raise.

4 bet is fine, but a little too small. I make it $160.

This is a two street hand, you should bet bigger flop, setting up turn jam.

Don't like turn check.

As played, who the **** knows? Probably call it off given villain description.

I'm not a fan of any of our decisions in the previous HH hand except for our river check. Splashy game, indeed!

Preflop limp in EP is standard for me in a game like this. I would go a decent amount bigger preflop thanks to this hand hating a decent amount of flops plus we'll be OOP postflop, so at least $150 for me.

SPR is under 2 and thanks to previous HH we should have a bit of a FOS image. I likely mash the flop to setup a trivial turn shove. Probably $200 to setup a ~1/2 PSB shove of $320 shove into $680 for the turn.

Not really a fan of our turn check given our FOS image, but it certainly worked. Beating him into the pot and feeling super good about it. We committed ourselves preflop (getting in an awesome 20% of our stack, if he outflopped us for this price then nice hand sir), there's no A/K on board, JJ/TT consider themselves nuttish here based on our turn action, and guy's aggro and could be overvalueing / bluffing.

GcluelessNLnoobG

4bet is too small -- should be at least $150 and maybe $175, although I just raise the first time.

Flop bet is too small.

Now that you are here, you have to call -- that is the only reason to check turn.

Grunch- on the real hand your going to have to call absent some sick read with less than a PSB left and with a LLSNL lag floating with 6x7x,7x8x,55, also prob value/ protection betting TT (maybe some JJ combos) yeah your beat by two pair some just get there and counterfeit if that is the case

First hand just fold pre- if you play come in for the raise, flop either call or fold (your trying to get him to fold an overpair? he bet into 4 ppl he has something...) turn not a good card to barrel your repping very few 5x and cant even rep OMC l/rr AAs so the card is very good for his range and bad for yours...river give up is fine though oddly given the way the rest of the hand went down prob not too bad to bomb if V can fold an overpair as you have wayy more 7x combos on the river

Hand is played well. The fact that folks don't like the limp/raise is lol-tastic.

Call it off. V rarely has KK+ or 99 here.

I basically never limp/raise. It seems everyone who does it at this level does it with QQ/KK/AA -- and sometimes not even QQ. It is so face-up. Maybe we get lucky and come up against a player who doesn't recognize it.

I understand the desire to do it vs. this guy, but then we read the OP: I limp with QQ hoping to limp/raise and it limps around, now what?

Or: I limp, V raises to $15 deep, I re-raise to $45 and V calls -- then this hand above happens. We are so often toast.

We got lucky someone else raised before V did.

If it limps around, we play a very high SPR pot; unless we really suck at pokrs, it's unlikely we're going to make too many horrendous mistakes here. If we hit a monster, try to play for as much as we can. If we see a terrible flop / meh action, just check/fold (even if we sometimes fold the best hand it is never a big mistake since the pot is small and meaningless). Otherwise, do our best to play a small pot with a disguised hand (we can even check most flops to help aid in this).

And if Villain raises and it looks like it's going to go HU with little dead money and we won't be able to raise enough to comfortably stack off postflop (even with AA), just flat and play a high SPR manageable pot with a disguised hand.

GcluelesslimpingnoobG

AKA: how to lose tons of value or get stacked the fastest.

Seriously, unless you are limp/raising a wider than normal range or playing against terrible players who never adjust, limp/raising is just losing tons of value.

We've been here, though. It works in your games; it will never work in mine (unless you are wider).

I really don’t like your line from the previous hand and if it’s something you usually do, I think that the chinese guy played really well.

That said, talking about the actual hand...
If we put this guy on 88+, 98s (that seens preety possible IMO) we have >36% equity.
The call is mandatory, but I dont like the line.

Limp 4 Beting is unbalanced and brings horribles situations. It could be ok with KK+ and maybe some 22-44 or small suited connectors as a bluff. I almost never do that, but if I did, QQ wont be the case.

Now you have a lowspr pot vs a villain who cold 3Beted, called a colder 4Bet and that probably is exploiting you through the session.

As played, with the limp, I would only call the 3Bet to pot control.

As played PF, OTF i’m beting close to potsize. Minimum 190€.
This guy isn’t folding TP and Overpairs vs you, as he proved back there, and he is probably right on doing that.

Than i’m jamming OTT.

If he have us beaten, bad luck. The decisions PF caused that.