This is one reason why I recommend downsizing on the flop bet. If your going to do it on this texture a lot, which I will, you want to do it cheap, since you will get called a lot.

Further, you’re only playing the turn this aggresivly a specific line unfolds.
The only caller is the RFI.
The only caller is the type of player, who can fold an over-pair.
A very good turn card comes.

If that specific line unfolds, my premise would be that you are not over-bluffing but that the RFI will be overfolding.

This is why the turn raise is actually the only part of this play I actively dislike. I think it’s too small. It’s 185 to win 830 if I read the action right.

I think you need to create more fold equity, and I’d shove. Any other turn bet pays too good a price. Especially, when you consider he does have flush draws in his range that you can’t get to show down with because they are ahead of you.

Results Shorn?

So not that they are relevant, but V tanked for a good two minutes, knuckled the table, and folded.

I said "good fold with AA" and he replied "I had AA beat" which I think is bs as no way he folds a set there (especially because I gave him too good of odds).

Anyway, result was good but clearly line needs some work, particularly flop where I have zero equity versus more than one opponent. Snowman's comment (and others) about me being card dead and "bored" could be relevant as I tend to perhaps look for plays to make instead of allowing the game to come to me. I really struggle with multiple hours of dry spells being card dead (again, I call it Breakeven Tilt) and hands like this are sometimes the result.

Thanks for all the input and constructive criticism.

Shorn

NH Shorn. I had a feeling you took this one down. No need to be overly modest, but I understand the need to head off the "don't be results oriented" critiques or the "this was a brag post" accusations.

Thanks for posting a hand that worked out well to balance this forum's over saturation of hands that didn't go well for OP.

I can't believe I read a sentence in this thread with the words 'fold preflop' in it.

“Breakeven tilt” or not, I think you played the hand better than what most have advocated regardless of result. Well done. You identified a boarded that V could be strong versus and took the needed action to win the hand.

+1.

V could NOT be strong. Type o.

Nice of you guys to say. But I do think the other comments have a good deal of merit, specifically choosing a 4-way pot to make this play on the flop (3 way better and clearly HU ideal).

Anyway, keep grinding and GL to everyone out there this weekend.

Shorn

Ill say the same thing I say about most hands like this where you color outside the lines. Keep track of every time you do it and see how you come out long term. If you play 100 hands like this and you are profiting long term, then you are picking good spots to make these kinds of moves....in other words you are getting good at playing other peoples cards instead of your own. If you are bleeding chips doing it, then obviously stop doing it.

It's a great point Mike and I do need to do that. Because it is hard hand to hand to see where you are making good decisions versus not. And frankly the result of a given hand means nothing in the context of whether the decision was based on sound logic or not. Last thing I want is to become a FPSy player more than mostly sticking to the knitting and getting most of my EV from value betting strong holdings.

Good points Mike and Shorn. Can be a thin line between being ABC and FPS.