Hero raises KJ clubs to 12 from late, gets one caller. Villain has only been playing about 15 minutes, but most likely a TAG. 200 effective stacks.

Several hands earlier someone had raised to 5 under the gun, V 3bet to 10, and I 4bet to 30 with JJ. Flop came 3 under cards, dry, I Cbet and V folded showing AQo.

In this hand flop comes K78 with two diamonds. V checks. H bets 15 into $26 pot. V calls.

Turn comes 4 spades. V checks. H bets $25 into $56 pot. I’m value targeting pocket pairs like 99-JJ, or A7, A8. V min raises to $50. I call.

River comes an off suit King. As soon as river hits, V grimaces like he hates the river card, then bets $60 into $156 pot. Huge live tell here. Still I call. I justify it by pot odds. But I didn’t properly think through his range. That combined with the live tell make this an easy fold I think.

My biggest question is if I should have checked back the turn.


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Probably just want to fold to the turn C/R. We beat none of his value hands. The min-raise is so nutted he probably has 56s or a flopped set.

As for checking back turn I think that's fine occasionally but we need to call a reasonable bet on a variety of rivers as a baseline.

If we're betting turn I think we need to go bigger around 40. We arent going for 3 streets of value so lets get a little more now.

As played river is a snap fold especially with the bad acting job. *Edit* I just noticed we made trips on the river. I still think it's a fold. What worse Kx is he check-raising turn with? Is he firing river with 78 for a counterfeited two pair? No.

If he was gonna raise a draw he would've done it on the flop, and he'd make it bigger. I'm guessing the 4 helped him? Also, yeah the disgusted bet is like 99.9% the nuts.

Hitting trips on the river kinda sucks because if it bricks I feel you make a pretty std fold (taking into account his river actions).

His minraise on the turn practically flips his hand faceup unless he's a complete noob. After he angles the river he's pretty much nutted to high hell.

Yeah you are all spot on I think. I wondered if I should have folded the turn CR, but I’m getting like 6 to 1 on his min raise. I’d have to be certain that I’m nearly drawing dead...but if I think about considering the board...maybe I can be. I mean this guy isn’t min CRing with any king, or the turned flush draw, or with a complete bluff. His range is pretty much all straights and sets.

I guess whether or not I should check the turn depends on if this guy has lots of 7s and 8s in his range. If he’s calling my pre with like Q8o and J7o then I’ve got some value targets.

Results were I called the 60 river bet and he showed 77 for the boat. I knew I was beat and called anyway. I think I was blinded by the fact that I rivered the third king. I just need to get better at folding to river bets, and not calling just because I REALLY want to win the pot....at these stakes bluffing on the river is so rare.


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Fold river, fold turn, possibly check turn. Alternatively I might consider bet/folding bigger if I did bet.

Think board justifies a bet on the turn as a lot of draws pick up more equity that we want to charge. Betting with a plan to check back unimproved rivers is likely best here.

When he min raises it does seem quite nutted and think we see 56/sets alot.

The actual question you have is an interesting one. There's pros and cons.

Bet the turn

1. If the villain has a FD, you want to charge him for it rather than let him see a free card that makes his flop bet profitable.
2. You'll be called lighter on the turn than the river.


Check the turn

1. A bet starts bloating the pot with a weak hand.
2. You'll get called lighter on the river.
3. It will allow you to represent a FD on the river.
4. It protects your cbets showing that a check on the turn doesn't mean you have nothing.

All things equal, I think a check is a more EV play against an unknown. I'd save my b/b/x approach to villains that are calling stations or noted flush chasers who aren't imaginative enough to bluff the river.