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10-13-2015 , 03:05 PM
Hi guys, long time lurker with a question about bet sizing on the turn to charge the right price for Villains I put on draws, mainly OESD draws, and flush draws. I know there's going to be the "It Depends" type of response, but just looking to make sure my bet sizing is in the ball park.

Let's say this is for situations where I have a Good hand, Nuts, or Near Nuts. Both situations are at Parx.

$1/2 NLHE Good Hand Situation:

Villian is MP, $400 stack, MAWG, fit or fold type, limps a lot in late position, bet sizing seems he only looks at the absolute Value of bets.

Hero: Button, $450 stack, been playing 4 hours now, table sees me as TAG, only shown down strong hands in late position, Villian has not seen my holdings, but I assume, if he would classify me, he would classify as Aggro, because I've pushed him around a bit, when he limps and I raise in Position. This session he's seen me C-bet about 60% of the time.

Hero: 77

3 Limps, Hero raises to $15. One caller from MP.

Board: 7 2 J

Pot: 35

MP cuts out about $80 in chips, starts shuffling, checks.

Hero Bets 25. One Green chip.

Turn: 3

MP: Takes a while, and touches table softly. (which ive noticed I do if I really want to see the next card... kind of like a "be nice to me, pleaaase?" check)

Hero: Bets?



Villian 1 is OMC, early position, will call raises to set mine, but doesnt think about SPR when he does so. $250 stack

Villian 2 is young black kid, sound player so far, Showed a squeeze play earlier and has tightened up. I've watched V2 watch players, so hes a thinking player is my guess. $350

Hero: in CO, $~300 Sat down one hour ago, first 30 minutes very tight, getting feel of table, recently, Ive been raising in position. K J

4 Limps, Hero raises to $15 in CO. One caller from EP, One Caller from MP.

Board: Queen 10 9

Pot: 52

Check, Check,

Hero Bets 50. (red Chips)

One Fold, MP Calls.

Turn: 4

Pot: 150.

MP: views hole cards, checks.

Hero: Bets?


Ideally I can hear not only your bet size range, but why you bet that range? IMO these are both areas to bet hard and extract as much value. Both situations Villians are continuing with hands that are either A) Solid and can improve, but dominated. or B) have strong draws like FD or OESD plus potential overs.

Thanks guys
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10-13-2015 , 04:06 PM
Hand 1: I'd bet $50-65 on the turn. $65 is probably better on this board, since he can have combo draw hands like 109cc, 89cc, and Jxcc that will pay off larger bets.

Hand 2: Given stack sizes, I think I'm betting $100 on this turn. That sets us up for an easy river shove if we're called. Since he's already called a ~PSB on the flop, he clearly thinks he has something strong here. I could see going as big as $125 here, but against a thinking player I'd rather just double the flop bet. Sets off fewer alarm bells that you're committed to this hand.
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