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08-10-2013 , 12:44 PM
Detour before I post river action. Let's say I do raise to $30 pre. If I'm called in 2 spots and am first to act, what kind of boards am I c-betting? Check folding? Check calling? Check raising? Assume for this hypothetical that V1 and V2 are the callers.
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08-10-2013 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Rise4ndFire
Detour before I post river action. Let's say I do raise to $30 pre. If I'm called in 2 spots and am first to act, what kind of boards am I c-betting? Check folding? Check calling? Check raising? Assume for this hypothetical that V1 and V2 are the callers.
If you raised and got 2 callers, as a default vs standard opponents, I'd cbet most flops with one over, flops where I have an over pair, set.. most paired boards as well

I wouldn't check/anything in most cases unless I have specific reads that villains are either tricky or like to the stabs vs checks or I have a super nutted hand like on a TT2 board or like T44 or whatever.. but I might still bet in the second example, especially if the pair is higher

I guess I might check/evaluate on boards where I have a straight draw or boards where there's an over card and it's monotone and I have the flush redraw

I would check fold most flops with 2 overs or something super coordinated like 456 monotone and you don't have that suit


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08-10-2013 , 10:40 PM
UPDATE:

RIVER ($245) Hero checks, V1 checks, V2 bets $120, Hero ???
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08-10-2013 , 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by overun
Sorry didn't see that we got bet into..

This is a really tough spot because you have the world behind you and you have an ABC player who lead into the field on a really coordinated low board with multiple draws.. honestly I'd just fold because you have no idea where you're at and there are NO good turn cards for our hand (not even a T!!)

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Folding here can never be that bad imo. 7 ways on such a connected flush draw board, this is a reverse implied odds nightmare. And this is one of those situations where EVEN IF we have the best hand and call, we may still fold that best hand later in the hand to more pressure as we can't really handle much action on this board with a likely bad turn or river card. The fact that a T on the turn brings in a OESD is also a problem in a 7 way pot (It's minor but still a concern).

Summary: we could be trailing on the flop, we could have the best hand but still have to fold later anyways even when we're still good, we could have the best hand but get turned or rivered, the pot is small. Translation folding is fine imo. Basically call or fold has to be pretty damn close here.

Call ~ Fold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Raising.

Raising is pretty damn terrible in this spot imo. This is not the time to start building a pot. We have a very marginal hand in a 7 way pot.
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