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Trips. Call or raise for value. 1/2 Trips. Call or raise for value. 1/2

11-22-2012 , 08:25 PM
Hero is 445
Villain 150 random villain. Just sat at table.
Hero raises to 8 with AQ

Sb calls, limper calls

(26)

Flop comes AAJ rainbow.
Check
Check
I decide to check seeing as it is so hard for someone to hit here. Hoping someone I'll take a stab on the turn.
Turn is a 3
Check
Villain bets 15
Hero calls.
If he is taking a stab here I want him to fire another bullet on river, thinking he can push me off.
Sb folds.
Turn is 5. No flushes.
Villain leads for 35
Call or raise? He has around 100 left. So if I raise I put him all in. I say I have him beat the majority of the time here. Do I have his bet call range beat. But do I make him play for the rest of his stack or call? He could have an Axs hand and slow played the ace like me and hit his boat, 33 and 55 are definitely in his limp call range. But I also think I get the rest of his stack is he has any other ace. What's my play here.
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11-22-2012 , 08:37 PM
just bet bet bet. if he has jx/ax or a gutter he will call you. he may peel with a small pocket pair. but unless he has ax or jx hes not gonna pay you more than 1-2 streets, so i like to go for the part of his range that will pay me the most since he has an elastic range

as played i raise/fold unless you have some reason that he could possibly jam with an inferior trips.
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11-22-2012 , 08:47 PM
just bet on the little tables... dont try and get to tricky.
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11-22-2012 , 08:52 PM
What is in question here? You hit trip aces, I don't think v has jj or aj with a flat call preflop, and he def doesn't have it checking on flop, you have the hand won. I think getting about 10-15 in on flop is viable if he thinks you're just pushing off. I don't mind the check on flop, but def a reraise on turn, and then put him all in on river.

I put him on 2-10 pocket pair, including trip 3s and trip 5s, I put him on qk k10 q10 with a drawing semi bluff for straight. Seems like he wants people off the pot with a $35 value bet on river (shoving is too dangerous for v if someone like you hit flop, I think it's a semibluff with a pair or underset, and I think he is folding if you reraise him all in.)

Last edited by Reversed; 11-22-2012 at 08:58 PM.
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11-22-2012 , 08:58 PM
Bet/bet/bet

As played shove river, you underrepped your hand so he might call with something funny.
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11-22-2012 , 09:00 PM
Underset... = boat
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11-22-2012 , 09:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MSchu18
Underset... = boat
I full derped, still played way wrong, Maybe it's just cuz I play TAG and don't try to get too tricky at 1/2, but I am def playing this different.
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11-22-2012 , 10:01 PM
The question isn't so much on the line I chose. It's do I call or shove?
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11-22-2012 , 10:02 PM
Checking flop is bad on multiple levels. just bet. As played, shove.
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11-22-2012 , 10:08 PM
i would do a bet/check/bet line

always cbet to keep opponents guessing, especially when you have the (almost)nuts! - obvously avoid cbetting on gross boards when you dont have anything or have just TPWK or 2nd pair

bet 10 on the flop to induce bluffs and get thin vaue from gutshots, Jx and small pairs, Ax will raise and if they do flat or 3 bet

but ya always cbet in this spot
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11-22-2012 , 10:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jseeley
The question isn't so much on the line I chose. It's do I call or shove?
Please answer the question for the love of God.
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11-22-2012 , 11:10 PM
Shove. Getting called by so many worse Aces and occasional lower pp. easy value
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11-22-2012 , 11:19 PM
you're just trying to get it in vs. an underpair. plenty of those vs. hands that beat you so may as well go for it. also a worse ace or a jack might call. might as well try to get some use out of having (i think mistakenly) checked the flop. pre-flop raiser + position = people are much less likely to believe you. to not bet the flop then not try to take advantage of having under-repped is double bad.
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11-23-2012 , 03:24 AM
Hah, I was sitting next to you when this hand happened so I wont comment since i know results. I'm the guy that shoved the J69 flop with 69dd
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11-23-2012 , 04:52 PM
As played I shove for villains remaining 90 or so. He give a disgusted look on his face, like he doesn't want to call. Calls flips over JJ, least likely hand I expected to see. Maybe if he has 150 BB instead of 50 I just call. But I thought this is a no brainier. Even if he flips 33 or 55(which I expected to see much more than JJ) I still have to raise. I think at this level he's even calling with A2.
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11-23-2012 , 06:18 PM
With stack sizes being what they are, I shove this river.

I'd have bet the flop.
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11-24-2012 , 03:02 AM
I'd have bet this flop, this is 1/2, don't get crazy, people call with weird stuff plus we need to get 3 streets of value from worse aces.

River is a trivial raise as played.
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11-24-2012 , 03:18 AM
Since I was at the table I will say that I would have just called V on river. He was playing ultra tight and only calling raises with premium hands, even for small raises. Then he leads out twice? I don't think this particular V is leading river with less than AT. If you had bet the flop you would have a better range on him. Either way this is just a cooler hand. Pretty sure V had been at the table for a while and not just sat down.
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