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Triple barrel gets there.  Now what do we do? Triple barrel gets there.  Now what do we do?

06-02-2019 , 09:14 PM
Hero MAWG. Stack $600. Probably perceived as a TAG but it is Saturday night with a $300 HH promo so who even knows if anyone even knows what TAG is.

Villain Drunk 30 year old white guy. $200. He had $800 and has bluffed all but $200 away. I called him off for a full double with top pair good kicker when he had Ace high about an hour ago.

OTTH

HERO is UTG with JT and opens to $12
MP and Button call.
SB calls and BB folds.

Flop ($51) Q85

Hero bets $20.
MP and button fold.
SB calls and BB folds.

Looking back, this is a questionable bet. Betting into 4 players with just a gutter and bdfd oop is a pretty bad idea. I hate the idea of c/c and vs the correct opponent a c/r can work but is a bit risky.

Turn ($91) 6

Hero bets $35
SB calls.

I think I am just pushing buttons at this point. This sizing is terrible with my exact hand. I suppose I am representing value when I really have Jack high. The sizing should be higher here for sure. In the moment, I thought he had a 1 pair and and that a triple barrel would make him fold. FPS on my part for sure.

River ($161) 7

Villain counted down his chips very slowly and gave Hero a couple of looks before checking. The entire exchange probably took 30 seconds. He has $135 behind.

Hero?


Since he has been spazzing so much, is a micro bet better than a jam here?
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06-02-2019 , 09:22 PM
Size up the turn and the river plays itself.

I don’t mind the small flop bet though I’d go $25. You’ve got blockers to top pair and can barrel many turns. Your pair outs are often live as well.
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06-02-2019 , 09:58 PM
River is no brainer

Flop is ok, tho id size up

Turn is pretty big spew, should mostly be checking. Awful card to barrel and not good for your range
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06-02-2019 , 10:02 PM
Your self-reflection on this hand is good. Now shove.
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06-02-2019 , 10:15 PM
Flop betsize is probably the bare minimum I would consider, but still is a reasonable one.

Turn bet sizing doesn't really accomplish much for us IMO. Just seems like we will get very few folds against this V type on this turn card.

River is a no brainer shove. Unless we bet a minuscule $35-40, I can't see him getting bluffy/spazzy, and betting that small torches so much value when he has 2pr, straights or even Qx getting heroic that it kind of ruins the point of it.
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06-02-2019 , 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Minatorr
Turn is pretty big spew, should mostly be checking. Awful card to barrel and not good for your range
Does your action change if we are IP or OOP? I thought we were OOP which would favor a bet. Guy has a $200 stack so we’ll always have enough equity to call it off if he jams.
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06-02-2019 , 10:45 PM
Snap shove
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06-02-2019 , 11:13 PM
I can see good reasons for this flop bet sizing... probably would like to see it larger if there was a flush draw out there..

but part of the reason to bet small on the flop is that you can size up on the turn when it's a good barreling card. small bets keep ranges wide and set up profitable turn bluffs.

as played, effective stacks are less than a pot sized bet... i think you're going to miss value if you leave it up to him to spaz raise. there aren't many hands that he would continue with when you make a smallish bet that he would fold if you bet enough to put him all in... it's also likely that if he has a spaz range, there is a lot of overlap with his call all-in range.
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06-03-2019 , 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
Does your action change if we are IP or OOP? I thought we were OOP which would favor a bet. Guy has a $200 stack so we’ll always have enough equity to call it off if he jams.
Yeah if we're OOP im ok with betting to capitalize on some of our FE but being IP it's just better to check and realize our equity vs a range that most likely isn't folding.
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06-03-2019 , 01:44 AM
There’s value in preempting drunk guy bluffs which would make betting turn small good if OOP. IP here tho it’s s check bc we’d just like to make a hand. There no FE against drunks, so grab a turn ck IP and pile river now that you got there.
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06-03-2019 , 02:59 AM
The flop bet is fine. You are naming your price and will occasionally get through.

People don't take advantage of the fact that in multiway LSNL pots we can just bet whatever we want and Vs won't adjust much.

It's not really that wet.

Turn, OOP I would like this bet for above reasonns. IP either take the free card or blast it.

River: I wouldn't mind the lower variance play of betting smaller to get called by Q, in general.

If you shove, it's kind of confusing, which can be good. Most 1/2 players would be scared of the straight in your shoes. It looks bluffy in that way. But on the other hand, what are you doing, turning JJ into a bluff?

It's really hard to call with like KQ. I'd probably fold it to you.

Depends what you think of this guy. To me sounds like he might be ready to go home or rebuy.

It's the kind of spot where V can be kind of perversely happy about calling off and then lamenting his horrible beat.

He also might want to get you back for your call of his bluff.
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