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Trip tens + Nut FD, shove or call? Trip tens + Nut FD, shove or call?

10-11-2013 , 11:08 PM
Few limps, I raise ATo to 15 from SB. 1 caller from standard fit or fold player. He limp/calls a decent amount.

Flop (32): TTx two diamonds, I have Ace of diamonds. I check, he bets 24, I call.

Turn (80): low diamond. I check, he bets 60 leaving 140 behind. Hero shove or call?

Hero covers.

Tell me if any of this is flawed:

Looking back, I think I should have c-bet flop. I just don't see a lot of hands he can call with besides the flush draw. I give him the opportunity to bluff flop by checking and perhaps catch up on the turn. I have a backdoor flush draw so I block Ax of diamonds and have equity if I let him see a free turn with a FD and he gets there. I c/c rather than c/r because his range there IMO has a good amount of hands he can't call a raise with. If he has a ten, a lot of money is going in anyway on later streets so no rush to bet.

On the turn, he could bet Tx, flushes, and fullhouses. Since I block AdXd I feel he'll have enough Tx in his range. He only has less than 2.5x raise behind for a shove which could get value from weaker tens and I still have equity vs flushes.

Thoughts on flop check, turn decision?

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10-11-2013 , 11:26 PM
don't raise pre. the SB is horrible horrible position.

he's got the flush a decent percentage, a T a decent percentage and a boat a decent percentage.

yes, i would c-bet the flop if i was you. you raised pre. you flopped good and you probably have a loose image.

that equals betting.
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10-11-2013 , 11:27 PM
You need to bet the flop.

As played I'd probably just shove now.
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10-11-2013 , 11:29 PM
Bet flop. C/r flop if you aren't going to bet it. Hopefully V has the other ten and they aren't folding it.
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10-11-2013 , 11:34 PM
Wrong on every street.

Don't raise pf. A10o isn't a hand to punish limpers with oop.

Bet flop just like you would AK.

OTT, a c/r all in is fine but betting out is better. You still may get a call from diamond draws and pairs. The rest is details.
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10-11-2013 , 11:35 PM
Against most V's with half a brain, I bet flop. Checking will look suspicious, and V's are often non-believers on paired boards, so you should get value from all PPs.

AP, shove, as another diamond kills your action except against boats and maybe Kd or Qd.
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