i can vouch for it, a late position l/rr is almost always a weak pp, at least where i play, sometimess it's going to be trash like A8o but the lag OP talked about seems really bad, so giving him credit for knowing this is meh, I think he calls with hands we crush a lot (lower pps, 1 over)

why not have A5o then? or even 72o? your hand selection to do this move could be much better, TT is a top tier hand and you want to take the pot down preflop?

i don't understand this logic. why would i limp raise a hand like A5 unless i'm trying to balance my range. i hardly ever limp reraise so that range doesn't need balancing.

you're thinking about the move in terms of taking it down preflop. which if i did it would make no difference if i had A5 or 1010. in fact, it would probably be better if i had A5 because i'm blocking Ak Aq combos. however, if i get called with A5o or jammed on then i'm ****ed.

I shove here, in part, for the FE. Nothing wrong with picking up pots like this with 10/10. It also allows you to do this again when you have a bigger hand and maybe get him to make a horrible call.

I don't understand the logic of flatting and then having him bluff into you. I mean aren't you basically putting yourself in a position to make tough calls if overcards appear on the turn or river?

I'm not trying to "play poker" with 10/10 against a LAG who has over double my stack and sounds like he fires a lot of barrels.

I would rather "play poker" with suited connectors against this type of player than 10/10.

Firstly, the first mistake is not betting preflop with 10s for value and now have put yourself in a position where your not sure what range the villain has. Now your in a position where he might actually have a hand seeing his bet sizing is quite different from previous hands. If he calls your reraise then your basically have only one pot sized bet on the flop. If your first reaction is that it "feels gross" if he jams then you shouldn't consider doing it in the first place. The reason for flatting is that in these stakes you are polarising your hand making it easier for the villain to fold which is why people have suggested that raising with Ax or even Kx is better to take it down with. If he calls you have position and have to play poker. By limp rr it's almost like you are playing scared poker and worried about getting bad beat like the other hands he has taken down. If you rr and he folds the LAG will continue to be aggressive because he knows that all of you are just waiting till you have prem hands till you hit back, by balancing your keeping him guessing. To keep a LAG in check you need to let him hang himself for big pots and based on the hand history his post flop play is solid it's just his selection of hands pre which is in question.

You know, I think this varies with location. Where I play, it can be anything (52o... anything) but it's usually a pp, and people around here typically play their premiums aggressively, so there you go.

Regardless, I think we can all agree that hero is advertising a decent pocket pair, and villain isn't likely to consider the possibility of a bluff-raise.


Sure you do. Villain's squeezing range is broader than his calling range. That's all we need to know.

The only reason to open-raise is to get money in while you're good. Somebody's going to call. Yeah villain's defending range is narrower than his squeezing range, but a) he will probably defend a pretty broad range and b) there are two other fish in the hand that might call with speculative hands.

So yeah, raising pre has advantages, but to be clear, gaining information isn't one of them. And if faced with being certain that the villain is on a narrow range, or pretty sure if he's on a broad range, I'll choose the latter.

I don't know that I would go so far as to say it was a mistake to call pre, in fact things turned out swimmingly. Kind of creative actually (except for the rr part).

Is that what it means? Against a calling station, an overbet means "I got the nuts." Against a nit or a LAG, I think it more commonly means, "I want you to fold." Against a nit, I typically take his advice. Not so much against the LAG.

This is speculation of course. But his bluffing frequency would have to be somewhere less than 40% before I would change my strategy here.

He isn't going to feel that gross, he doesn't really want to engage this guy to begin with; that's what the limp/rr means. That's what it always means. OP pretty much knows if he open raises, villain is going to call and then either bomb the flop (smart) or check-raise (which is technically not as smart, although it could work against an unimaginative, scared-money TAG).

Look, I get it. I hate playing people like this. It's kind of interesting, we talk about ranges all the time, but we are only really used to playing against well defined ranges. Kind of freaks us out playing against an uncapped, broad range, even when we know we are ahead. Doesn't freak him out, especially when we define our range for him. We live in different worlds.

I agree with everything except the "almost" part

Egg-zacktly. With the only problem being, playing big pots with small hands. Is what it is I guess. Look, we know villain is playing all kinds of trash, and we are pretty sure he bets it. Number one priority at every step along the way is to keep the trash in his betting range.

The only question I have is, does he fire two or more barrels with air? We don't know that from the given hand histories; we can gripe about his pf range but he bet those boards smart imo. This is knowable; if his turn-betting frequency is more than half his cbetting frequency, we are gtg

If we aren't limping in to reraise then I really hate limping at all. If you don't love playing against people like this then you must hate money. He is putting in huge bets with weak hands. When we limp reraise a hand like 10s we should be ok with folds. How do we expect to trap on boards with 1 or more I've cards(which will happen the majority of the time)? I think LRR vs an obvious player like this is optimal. We collect all the dead money calls and even when we get in a flip situation we are making tons of money.

If we just call the raise we are trapping ourselves, not the aggressive LAG.

IMO, TT is the type of hand we're pretty much cool with taking down the pot ASAP or getting in all-in vs a wide range on a single early street. In most cases if we play 3 postflop streets to the river with an UI TT, it is typically pretty worthless. ETA: This actually pretty much applies to most top tier hands, with *perhaps* AA/KK being exceptions.

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