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12-10-2015 , 05:29 AM
Just looking for some input on what you'd do here;

2/4 10 players
Big-stack villain has called pretty loose so far today but has also shown down many monsters. He would be about 45/15

Table is generally loose-passive with each orbit having a raise and about 3-4 callers.

Hero ($400) is UTG with A K
Hero opens to $20
3 callers
Pot ($80)
Flop is A J 9
Hero bets $40
2 callers ($120 and $150 behind)
Pot $200
Big-stack Villain ($1000) raises to $120 (Pot now $320)
Hero is facing $120 call for $320 with 2 players left behind. Hero has ~$340.

Hero?

Now I have my own range for this villain, but I just want to see what the general consensus is here, assuming a 45/15 range. I haven't seen him slow play any monsters, he tends to play pretty straight forwardly post-flop.
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12-10-2015 , 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueLagoon32
Just looking for some input on what you'd do here;

2/4 10 players
Big-stack villain has called pretty loose so far today but has also shown down many monsters. He would be about 45/15

Table is generally loose-passive with each orbit having a raise and about 3-4 callers.

Hero ($400) is UTG with A K
Hero opens to $20
3 callers
Pot ($80)
Flop is A J 9
Hero bets $40
2 callers ($120 and $150 behind)
Pot $200
Big-stack Villain ($1000) raises to $120 (Pot now $320)
Hero is facing $120 call for $320 with 2 players left behind. Hero has ~$340.

Hero?

Now I have my own range for this villain, but I just want to see what the general consensus is here, assuming a 45/15 range. I haven't seen him slow play any monsters, he tends to play pretty straight forwardly post-flop.

Seems like we could use some info on vil bluff tendencies if you have some. Otherwise this is probably just a gross fold. The board is exceptionally dry we have two behind us, and he has the tendency to fast play big hands. yuck.
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12-10-2015 , 05:55 AM
Haven't seen him bluff yet, one or two times he called a big bet on the river with top pair weak kicker but that's about the extent of his weakness (besides calling wide PF); otherwise no bluffs seen.
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12-10-2015 , 05:57 AM
In that case I can't really imagine we beat much. With two left to act as well this becomes a pretty easy fold, I think
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12-10-2015 , 11:24 AM
Default assumption, until I have seen V bluff-raise with my own eyes, is that he has 2-pair+. Every 2-pair combo fits his range, as does 99 and JJ. If he plays "pretty straight forwardly post-flop," I'm going to give him credit for a big hand when he raises v your UTG raise pre + C-bet and 2 callers.

Raise looks like $80 more, correct? Or did he raise $120 on top of the $40 bet by hero? $80 is a smallish raise, not like he's trying to blow you off the pot, but trying to get paid by everyone's full stacks.
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12-10-2015 , 11:31 AM
fold, prob up against 2p, AJ,A9, or J9, he may do this with QT or T8, but most players will just flat. The earlier your position, you should be more inclined to bet bigger to get less callers. My goal is 1-2 callers.
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12-10-2015 , 11:32 AM
There's not really any hands that you beat if he's doing this for value. Best case is he has AK... Of course it could be a semibluff with QT, but that seems unlikely on this flop given action and sizing. He probably has JJ, 99, AJ, A9, and J9 all in his range. I would just let this one go.
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12-10-2015 , 11:37 AM
I would have bet a little more on flop. About $50-55. It makes a bet/fold a little easier. Still, you gotta realize your range is pretty strong here. When my range is strong and I'm getting raised, I assume their range is really strong.
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12-10-2015 , 01:57 PM
This board isn't that dry. It also smacks his wide calling range pretty good.
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12-10-2015 , 07:07 PM
He raised to $120 on flop.

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Originally Posted by letzplayHU
fold, prob up against 2p, AJ,A9, or J9, he may do this with QT or T8, but most players will just flat. The earlier your position, you should be more inclined to bet bigger to get less callers. My goal is 1-2 callers.
Spoiler:
Nice one!
He had J 9.

Reluctantly I shoved, as I'd played super nitty all day and thought I could rep JJ or AA, and he did tank for a solid 2 minutes, then called. Stove puts me at a 30% dog. I hit my miracle King on the turn and doubled up.

Feels bad though, being that behind. Shoulda known better.
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