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TPMK 1/2 - Bad bluff that worked? TPMK 1/2 - Bad bluff that worked?

01-05-2017 , 04:12 PM
H for the hand is a 20-something white kid who has been at the table for about 2 hours. In for 3bi, having lost the first BI raising AJdd ott AI with a SDFD. I snapped off by V2 who had middle 2 pair. H lost the second BI getting AI pre with AA to a tight player who tank called a full stack with TT. Since then, H has been playing TAG, folding most hands and coming in for a raise when playing about 80% of the time. I should have a solid image as I haven't been getting out of line or making crazy moves. ~400

V1 is a MABG who is calling literally anything with any piece of the board. Huge spot and keeps reloading. ~100

V2 is a old man clearly on tilt. Giant open sizes (18, 20, 23), calling 3! with garbage (I saw him show down 53o which hit runner runner to beat AK). He's also a spot as he bets flops with any piece and has an extremely wide range. ~Covers

V3 is a TAG to my direct right (I'd moved to get position on him). Playing a straightforward, solid game. ~Covers

V4 is a tight MAWG who seems just barely competent. Have not seen him get out of line. He folds a lot pre, sometimes opening for a standard 12. ~300

OTTH

H in the CO with Q9hh. 5 limps to H who makes it 16 to go.

I'm trying to get calls primarily from V1 and 2. V3 limped in front of me and I was hoping to iso against V1 or V2, or potentially play against them in position. Looking back, I think this is a marginal open. Plan was to flop some piece of the board and get value from V1 and 2 who will call with bottom pair, gut shots, even random overs, etc. I was not planning on bluffing flop if I didn't connect with the board, but would consider bluffing turn if I pick up any equity / feel that both Vs missed. If either bet, I am folding barring a strong hand.

V4 flats otb, which is not ideal. V1 comes along, as does V2, as does V3. V3 makes some sort of comment like "this is exactly what you wanted right? 4 callers?" ...yeah

Flop: 988r Pot: 76 after rake

Checks to H. I decide to bet half pot for 40.

Thoughts are I have a marginal hand and don't want to give a free card to overs. I think I can get A-rag and some broadways to fold their equity here, and get value from JT, some weaker 9s (V1 and V2 would snap call with lol-94), and maybe disbelieving low pps. Thoughts on sizing? Thoughts on thought process?

V4 calls, and surprisingly V1 and 2 fold. V3 also calls.

Turn: Ac, putting a BDFD on the board. Pot: 196

Check to H, who bets 100.

Thoughts at the time were that the ace hits my range and I don't think these players are continuing without some sort of made hand or draw. I can push out TT-QQ (mostly from V4), push out low pockets, get V's off other 9s that are now a chop. I also stop myself from getting bluffed if V4 decides to get creative.

Both V's fold, H wins.

Looking back, I think this is a bad bluff. I'm never getting called by worse and rarely folding better. It worked out, but I think I played it badly. How would you have played the hand, specifically the turn? Is this a c/c? A c/f? As played, it's a pretty easy b/f if either V raises, but betting seems to not really accomplish much, and if I am called, I basically have to shut down river as I'm never good (w/o catching a 9). My line was bad, but I'm not sure what's optimal.

Thanks.
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01-05-2017 , 04:14 PM
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01-05-2017 , 04:51 PM
Overlimp pre. Iso-ing with Q9s is a bad plan.

I'm cool with the flop bet, and turn is definitely a bet. They have no Ax in their flop calling range that wasn't already ahead of you. They have plenty of JT or 76 type hands that will either call getting incorrect odds or will fold their equity.
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