Hero mid 20s white talkative pretty snug player but opens it up when table permits. 400$

Villain 1 mid 20s also hasn't been at table to long but did overbet huge with KK on really dry board makes me think he's not very good confident post flop player 185$

Villain 2 mid 50s old guy sees and folds a lot of flops/hands talks and comments on his hands all the time. 120$

Hero is in BB With 86dd it folds to villain 1 who is in the cutoff and he makes it 7$ villain 2 calls and hero calls.

Flop comes 45hh8s hero checks villain 1 bets 20$ villain 2 calls hero calls. Turn is Qs hero pauses and bets out 60$....

How's this line? I thought ab raising flop but decided on betting pretty much any turn that wasn't an ace or king. A queen is def in the V1s range and V2 I have him on a hand like 910xx he was floating and folding a lot of turns and rivers. I feel like these villains don't really have a range for me because I was defending a lot of my blinds and leading out seems super strong here.. To them at least... Flawed logic?

this is why playing OOP is bad...if either of these Villains has a Q they're calling you and you're pretty much dead. If they have the Q (or flopped a straight), you'll definitely hear about it OTT and you can bail on the hand if you have position. I'm also guessing neither of these Villains is ranging your hand so I wouldn't worry about what you're repping against these guys.

The good news is that your OTT bet size is good and should fold out any draws and if they're calling you on a draw at this point that is great for you as they aren't getting the right odds to call.

For me, this would be a ck/fold OTT, don't like this spot w/both villains betting OTF.

Leading turn isn't that good because of the reasons above, because you could be keeping in some Ax hands with draws or simply for the overcard(s). I don't see how 2 opponents would fold on such a strange line but this line is good against calling stations. After flop I would check/call if he's a maniac and re-evalute river. If he's a nit folding is just fine.

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Thanks guys

Turn is like the definition of a bet/fold

Although I think you could get away with betting 50-55

Raising flop would be a bluff. Not sure I want to bluff into two people, especially when we aren't deep enough to double barrel V2

That was my thought process also I can't call a shove, but checking again seems like a waste, a lot of pots get checked down, and a villain catches a random 9 or 10 on river and scoops with his A10, figured this will win me the pot alot of the time, even 3 handed