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TP go for 3 streets??? TP go for 3 streets???

05-04-2015 , 10:16 PM
Hero- just sat down, I'm a reg there's only one guy I recognize at the table, I raised the first hand I played AJs , than i raised the 2nd hand I had pocket 10s , this hand is my 3rd hand the one I'm posting. I have 215 in my stack( 1/2 game).BB

V- walked in when I did he is clearly a rec player just from the way he's dreserd( shirt tucked middle aged big smile on his face) I've played with him
Before but I don't really remember anything about him. The first hand that I raised he called my 15 raise with 62 after two other guys called and he hit his flush


I have KQ in the BB I just check my option it goes 6 ways to the flop. ( should I raise??? This was my 3rd hand I raised the first 2, also I play a lot of hands so I'm trying to tighten up my range)

Flop-K93 pot-$11
I bet 11 I get 2 calls(v included)

Turn -7 pot-$44

I bet $28 only V calls

River-10
I checked with the intention of calling a bet I thought he had the fd, we had a little chatter after the first hand where he got his flush I had a guy shot and told him I would have never let him see the flush he was like" yea right." Do you check call/ check fold or bet again????
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05-04-2015 , 10:28 PM
i would think the standard value line vs recs here...

bet/fold about 50-70% of pot on every street.

seems pretty straightforward...

I am assuming he showed up with some jq,j8,910 nonsense?
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05-04-2015 , 10:38 PM
No he didn't , I'm wondering how to play tp in a limped pot, and if I should have raised preflop / is calling a bet on the river a good idea when there are so little hands that we beat
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05-04-2015 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Raeed561
No he didn't , I'm wondering how to play tp in a limped pot, and if I should have raised preflop / is calling a bet on the river a good idea when there are so little hands that we beat
sorry. i caught a wierd vibe from the thread there.

I am in the camp of naming the price on the river here.
You have had initiative the whole hand and I see no reason to not follow through with a 1/2 psb.

as played though I would like to be able to evaluate Vs river bet sizing after a check by H.

I just feel like I would be inclined to call only because I almost always bet/fold in this spot.
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05-04-2015 , 11:11 PM
If you bet what are you trying to get called by?? I pot the flop and bet 3/4 on the turn, the only hand we beat that could possibly call that is maybe KJ everything else pretty much hit two pair and I don't think k8 or worse is calling
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05-05-2015 , 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Raeed561
If you bet what are you trying to get called by?? I pot the flop and bet 3/4 on the turn, the only hand we beat that could possibly call that is maybe KJ everything else pretty much hit two pair and I don't think k8 or worse is calling
I'm sure you'll get the opinions that you're looking for...

Maybe I'm just lucky and play with bigger fish than you are used to but all too often, when I check in this spot I get a check back from a hand like mid pair that could have squeezed some thin value out of.

I am genuinely looking forward to some other perspectives on this hand though!
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05-05-2015 , 12:13 AM
Three streets seems rather thin, and leads to a bloated pot.

2 streets looks good to me though.
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05-05-2015 , 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Raeed561
... after the first hand where he got his flush I had a guy shot ...
Wait. What?
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05-05-2015 , 12:26 AM
Gut shot lol he ended up betting 40 on the river , hero?????
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05-05-2015 , 12:49 AM
40 into 100...I'm not thrilled but I probably call and expect to be good most of the time.
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05-05-2015 , 12:52 AM
grunch: you played it fine.

i think you can b/f all streets including river, but if you think there is a possibility this guy might stab at the river as a bluff than i think your river check makes sense. def betting flop and turn with the flush draw out there (with 6 limpers, flush draws are more of a concern than normal)... but i'd probably keep them on the smaller side since this is only top pair you're out of position.

i also would not raise pre. your hand is barely playable out of position. i'd check the blind too and be ready to fold if i didn't hit tp or better. i suppose if you read the entire table as too loose passive you could "punish the limpers" but that's rarely my game unless i'm pretty sure i have a lot of fold equity post flop against most of them.
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05-05-2015 , 03:21 AM
Legit squeeze spot. You're obviously being image conscious but we can't take KQ 6 ways, you're asking to loose money with TPK. Probably bet/fold half pot on river as played, it does seem thin but he sounds likely to overvalue his hand so it may be good, we don't fold any better hands though.

2 streets would be better but checking the turn after betting the flop makes no sense
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05-05-2015 , 10:32 AM
About how long did he pause/think before betting $40?

I also agree with chickasaw that your bet/bet/check line doesn't make a lot of sense and could entice a bluff, (if he thinks you missed your flush) or a bet with a 9 to try and push you off the hand. Given that you read him as a fish and he playes 62s before, it is possible he is playing a little "off".

I would say if he waited/thought a bit before betting $40, I think that was him trying to think if he could bluff you and snap call $40.

If he insta bet $40 after you checked, I am sigh calling. I think we are good 30%+ at least.

I might honestly fold to bets $60+ on the river depending on the read.
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05-05-2015 , 10:42 AM
Grunch

I would raise $20 pre. You've got 5 limpers in there. Realistically, someone probably has Ax meaning they are "ahead" but I think KQo is still a clear raise from the BB since you don't have to worry about having dominated hand (AK shouldn't be limping) and you should get decent value on any K or Q high flop with 1/2 PSB to get value from the QJ, KT type limp/call crowd.

As played, I am loloverbetting the flop to $15 targeting Kx and diamond draws as no one will fold a K in a limped pot here. Turn and river are likely b/f but you can size a little smaller like 1/2 pot.
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