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TP + FD in limped pot facing 2 overbets TP + FD in limped pot facing 2 overbets

09-01-2014 , 08:30 AM
1/2 MD Live

Hero: ($260): 27 year old white guy playing TAG showing winners. One guy recently commented how "quiet" I've been since I haven't played a hand in like 5 rotations. Hands I have showndown have basically only been Aces and Kings.

V1 ($600): 60s white man. Is the one who commented saying I havent been active. loose/passive. Station, fish. Likes to check/raise his big hands. Haven't seen him bluff.

V2 ($215): 60s+ Asian man. Pretty TAG. Just lost a hand prior to this so could be steaming a little.

Hand: V1 limps UTG, V2 two on his left makes it $15. 2 callers and I'm in the BB with A7. Before I call V1 on my left throws $15 as well so I decide to call ($13 to win $62).

Flop ($75): A4 5

SB checks, I check. Normally I lead here but I decided to go for a c/r thinking V2 was definitely betting the flop. I knew this because he immediately glanced down at his chips and started cutting out a bet when he saw the flop.

V2 throws a $100 black chip in. V1 instashoves for $200. Folded to me in the BB....

Hero?
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09-01-2014 , 10:20 AM
I fold pre. I dont like playing suited aces oop. This spot is exactly why. At this point I think you are priced in. I probably reshove on the off chance v1 somehow folds AK and V2 has a draw, but really youre getting it in here with decent equity even if called.

Edit: misread the action a bit. I assume you have v1 and v2 reversed on the flop action. I originally thought v1 was the pfr. I suppose this makes their ranges tighter. Wiithout busting out poker stove and crunching this, it still feels like a shove.
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09-01-2014 , 10:32 AM
You have direct odds to ship here just for the fd so folding would be a pretty big mistake with your stack size..
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09-01-2014 , 11:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Koss
I fold pre. I dont like playing suited aces oop. This spot is exactly why. At this point I think you are priced in. I probably reshove on the off chance v1 somehow folds AK and V2 has a draw, but really youre getting it in here with decent equity even if called.

Edit: misread the action a bit. I assume you have v1 and v2 reversed on the flop action. I originally thought v1 was the pfr. I suppose this makes their ranges tighter. Wiithout busting out poker stove and crunching this, it still feels like a shove.
V1 and V2 are reversed OTF, won't let me edit the post.

I am basically shoving $240 to win ~$750 assuming V1 calls (which I felt certain he would). That's only like 3.1:1 odds which isn't enough to draw to a flush right? Don't I need 4:1? Or does having top pair potentially change that?
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09-01-2014 , 11:11 AM
You need 4:1 with 1-card to come. You get to see both cards for one price. Makes it ~2:1. I figure the times you are good and/or have 3 additional outs (7s) will make up for the times you are against sets. So yeah, easy shove.
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09-01-2014 , 11:44 AM
Fold pf. Only A7o and A6 are worse RIO hands pf.

As played, we have only 32% equity against a set. My guess is that V2 has the pair and V1 has the set. You're playing two hands. If both of them call your shove, you're putting in 200 to win 475 and 45 to win 45. You're +16 EV in the big pot and -16 EV in the side pot. If you scare the pair off, it becomes a -EV event for you. I'd fold.
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