Game: Live 1/2
Hand: 22
Position: SB
Stack: 200$
Vilain: Decent player (20-25yo), doesn’t get out of line, covers from UTG+1.

Preflop Action: V bets 12$, MP calls, I call, BB calls. (49$)
Flop: 532ssh
Action: V bets 40$, MP folds, I call, BB folds. I almost raised here, I am pretty sure he has either a big pair or two high spades. He is pretty tight and I’m not sure he would give me action if I raise him, I’d rather call/raise his future bets (Since A/K/Q would be coolers for his middle pairs it was probably a bad decision.). (129$)
Turn: Qc
Action: He bets 100$, I? (I have 148$ left)

Easy shove, your not folding a set here 55 33 are the bottom of his range esp from UTG+1 and ditto for A4suited. And well if he has Queens so be it

How is this a tough turn spot? Qx is a great card for your hand, as it doesn't complete any draws. Super easy shove.

Aha yes that is what I thought, but just wanted to make sure, that's what I did, I shoved and he called and showed QQ for a turn set...

So it just made me wonder if I played it badly, what do you think about raising the flop?

Little to no FE on the flop imo and it probably would have been a good play as well to click it back x2.5 (to build the pot for stacks) seeing you could have a flush or a straight draw there. But once the turn comes it just plays out as is

exactly, both plays where ok OTF, but raising probably the best play! Just choosed the wrong!

Most obvious shove ever? Sorry you ran into trup QQ?

Posted this before reading result lol. Too obvious.

If you don't know what to do here at the table it's time to take a walk.

fold pre

Prob fold pre, given stacks. Set mining OOP w 22 with 200 eff stacks is a little thin.

Flop: V bets 40 into 49. Your call creates a pot of $129 and you'll have $148 left. Your stack may be a little big to shove here but it wouldn't be a bad play. CIB and shove turn would also be fine. Calling flop with a plan to check turn is not my fave option here though bc you don't want him to check behind on the turn.

Given this draw heavy board and your deceptive hand and being OOP, I think you check raising the flop is the play. If he is so tight that he'll fold over pairs in spots like this, you can potentially exploit that later.

As played, odd luck that he turned a set against you. Not a lot of ways to avoid going broke in this spot as Qc looks like a good card for you.

there is no way I'm folding that preflop, table is loose passive, I'm going to exploit that and setmining is perfect in that situation!

And I'm pretty sure he is not checking back turn unless he has absolutely nothing (he wouldn't call a bet in that case) and I don't put I'm on a lot of draws neither!

lol @ folding pre flop getting 17:1 on our money.
Always calling pre flop.

Generally raising the flop since there are a bunch of action killing turn cards (Ace, 4, 6, spades) some of which might give us the worst hand, and some of which might just stop him from punting the rest of his stack to us.

As played, he is still getting it in with AA/KK here, so sometimes you just gotta lose that money. Sorry.

I'm not a stickler for needing 20 to 1 implied odds to profitably set mine, but when I do set mine getting less than 20 to 1, optimally, I'd have better position and a stronger hand than 22, since 22 is almost never going to win without hitting the set (while 66, for example, sometimes will).
With 22 in the small blind, 17 to 1 is a little thin. I'm not saying it's a clear fold but, it's a little thin. 22 on the button? 17 to 1 is delicious. 22 in the SB? Little thin.
And, not for nothing, one of the reasons 20 to 1 implied odds is desired is for those times when we get cracked set over set.

I probably call preflop here, too. Preflop is not a big mistake, if it is a mistake. Not raising the flop does feel like a mistake.

I mean if I don't flop a set I'm out of there and if I do, whether I'm in position or not doesn't really change much thing, I'll really rarely be behind... And 17to1 is way enough to see the flop lol

Raise to $120 on the flop.

As played: fist-pump shove.

Sorry he had QQ.

Don't fold pre, raise flop before an action killing turn comes in. As played go broke on the turn.

20:1 is nice and cushy to set mine for sure. But as a rule it is too conservative IMO. Under certain circumstances I would be happy to set mine with 22 in the SB at 10:1. Given 20:1, I am vpiping any pocket pair blindly and drooling against any player in any position any day.