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Originally Posted by Salsca11
Got another hand to review ,165 starting stack kdjh on button limps to me open to 15, 2 callers from the blinds flop comes q,9,5 two diamonds. Sb checks bb bets 25 I call and sb call turn is a 10 of clubs sb checks bb bets I shove for 125. Bb calls hits a diamond for nut flush on river. Is bb line here weird ? If I am deeper do you think he folds to my shove ?
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Line check: K
J
(or KdJh) on button (also the title)
1/2 NL (I assume, could be 1/3)
Effective stack $165 (does Villian easily cover? What about the SB?)
No reads (most of the time you should be able to say something about how the villain(s) play).
limper (one, or more?), Hero (you) raise to $15, both blinds call (which is the villain?)
Pot $45 + limper(s) - drop
Flop: Q95 (2 Diamonds)
SB (Villian 1/V1) checks, BB (Villian 2/V2) bets (donks) $25, I (Hero) calls, SB (V1) calls.
Pot $120
Turn: T
(or Tc, or 10c - I prefer the T)
V1 checks, V2 bets $?, Hero shoves $125, V1 folds, V2 calls.
V2 calls and hits a diamond for nut flush on the river. Is BB's line here weird? If I am deeper do you think he folds to my shove?
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What's missing is V2's kicker, what you've seen of his play (as well as the small blind), how many limpers, the specific game (1/2, 1/3, 2/3, 2/5), the apparent fact that the SB (V1) folded.
Also, as a general rule, you don't post results, as it affects the replies you get.
The easier a post is to read, the easier it will be for people to reply.
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My response (and there will be disagreement):
Preflop OK, not a huge fan of raising KJo, but I've done it.
Flop: when the villain makes a 1/2 pot bet, without any history I'm going to put him on top pair and we have an overcard and a gutshot. That's 7 outs and the T
is a tainted out, so 6 clean outs. That makes us a 3:1 dog to hit a good card on the turn. (simple table math: flop outs*4 = % to hit, then convert to odds. 6*4=24% hit, 76% miss - you miss 3 times, hit once ... 3:1).
Now, one piece of important information was left out. Was the Q on the flop one of the diamonds? If not (and I suspect it's not), the A
Q
is in villains range, not just some random Q that made one, or two pair (or something that made a set).
At any rate, this is getting kinda long and though there's more I could say, I'll stop here.
Hope this was helpful.
Jay