Villain and I have a crazy amount of history, played some of my biggest pots vs him. Villain a thinking player and more than capable of bluffing. He knows that I am "sticky" and have been known to call light.

2 hours into the session I am stuck ~$1K and have been opening more than normal.

Hero UTG - ~$1,000
Villain UTG+1 - ~$850
Villain (2) BB ~$1500

Hero straddles UTG to $15, called by Villain 1, folded around to BB who calls. I look at 1010 and raise $60 more. Both Villains call ($227t).

Flop A75

Checked around

Turn 4

BB checks, I bet $150, Villain calls, BB folds. ($527t)

River K

I check, Villain jams for $625, Hero goes hmmmmmm

Not sure why this is tough as you hold only a bluff catcher. So, given all the history you have, make a read and go with it.

I would have bet this flop after raising pre.

Im Folding, too many hands beating you and he could have the backdoor flush easily

I get that, but we need to think at what hands could he possibly have here.

What kind of hands is he value jamming. Flushes, that's really it. He wont have too many two pair hands with the K. He raises any two pair hands on the turn. He probably raises a straight there too.

What is he calling the turn with, QJ/Q10 spades ? Pair and a flush draw ?

An when he gets there, why would he jam all in if i had a weak hand ? If he makes a flush doesn't he want to bet like $250/$300 instead of putting max pressure on me ?

I think you're leveling yourself. Villain often has the flush here. Even when he doesn't, you can't beat the hands that he's betting for thin value (68, two pair, set) or even beat some hands that he's turning into a bluff on the river.

He could have a set here, and checked behind on the dry flop expecting you to get sticky with medium pairs on the turn.

He could have KQ here, and he's trying to get you to fold medium aces with his river shove.

What hands does he potentially check flop, float turn with that you can beat? Let's give him 88 and 99. Not sure why he's now trying to turn those hands into a river bluff, but sure, it's possible. Should we give him 78/76/56? Again, I'm not positive that he'd turn those hands into bluffs on the river when he reads you as sticky and he has showdown value, but it's possible.

Is he calling preflop with 78o/76o/56o? If we only give him suited combos, then that's a total of six combos he can have that you can beat (78hh, 78cc, 76hh, 76cc, 65dd, 65cc). Even if you give him all combos of 99 and 88, that's only 18 hand combinations in his potential range that you can beat.

On the other hand, he's calling your turn bet with aces, possibly kings, and all spade combos, including pair+fd. You lose to all of those.

So he can be betting huge with the nuts, betting huge for thin value, hoping you'll hero call, betting huge as a bluff with the best hand, hoping you'll fold, or betting huge as a bluff with one of the 12 combos that have showdown value, but you can actually beat.

Easy, easy fold. If you had AQ or A4, this is a tougher decision. But with this part of your range, it's an easy fold.

Fold...there are so many better spots.

Things he does not have. AA/KK/KQ/Set's/2Pairs. He limped after a straddle and then called a reraise with other players in the hand, No AA/KK.

He is not floating the turn bet with KQ.

He is could (unlikely) check the flop with a set, but again with another player, he is going to be raising my turn bet here ALOT (>90%).

2 pair hands - there arent many two pair hands he can have that dont RAISE me the turn, too vulnerable. K7 i guess but not much more.

Backdoor flushes are the only thing im worried about. QJ, Q10, J10, J9. Thats pretty much it.

Sounds like you have it all figured out, OP. Why ask our advice if you're so sure he can only have flushes for value?


Also, raise more pre, and bet flop.

Same as the other thread.

NHWP GSR OP.

Far from it, just questioning the responses and adding my thought process.

Definitely need to continue on that flop though

I generally don't like hero calling a lot... better to make money being the one forcing people to hero call, than to make money through hero calls

I don’t get how his value shoving range is only flushes when you are considering calling with a pair of tens.

Either his value range is way wider than you think, or he’s not a thinking player, one of your assumptions is wrong.

This.

Also, you still haven't given me a range of hands that call your turn bet and don't improve enough to beat you by the river. You've just rejected everything in the top of his range as inconceivable, and settled into "nut flush or total air."