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01-26-2016 , 01:09 PM
I agreed my preflop play was bad, I'm not sure why I decided to do that in that spot, I can't remember...

OTT I was trying to figure out what's the best move between calling and shoving, that's why I tanked.
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01-26-2016 , 01:22 PM
late to the party, but given your pf raise he is never expecting you to have a 7 here. And your flop play/turn check basically removes it from your perceived range, so just GII.
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01-26-2016 , 03:39 PM
If I was him I wouldn't remove it just yet, he knows I can play that way with a 7 preflop, calling his flop raise is strong and finally checking turn is standard since he took the lead in the betting OTF.
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01-26-2016 , 03:56 PM
God kills a kitten every time someone makes an asinine raise from the BB like this. Seeing people still willingly raising speculative drawing hands from OOP gives me hope that poker is alive and well.
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01-26-2016 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
God kills a kitten every time someone makes an asinine raise from the BB like this. Seeing people still willingly raising speculative drawing hands from OOP gives me hope that poker is alive and well.
+1
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01-26-2016 , 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
God kills a kitten every time someone makes an asinine raise from the BB like this. Seeing people still willingly raising speculative drawing hands from OOP gives me hope that poker is alive and well.
Thats true but whats worse is that after doing it he catches a miracle flop and then wonders if he should play for stacks.
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01-27-2016 , 01:36 PM
Wasn't I right to wonder? Guy had a 7 too, I know he doesn't bluff me that much.
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01-27-2016 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by CamNewton3
Wasn't I right to wonder? Guy had a 7 too, I know he doesn't bluff me that much.
That makes no difference. The point is if you are going to do something crazy like raise 97s out of the blinds and you get called....then the thought even crosses your mind to be careful when you flop trip 7s, you have serious issues.
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01-27-2016 , 07:45 PM
thats not what I was hoping to flop, yes it's a sick flop for me, but now we play for stacks and if he puts me on an overpair (what I represent), he'll only give me action if he beats it. Since he can't never have a big pair here he either has a 7 too or a FH or a good draw.

I get your point and I wasn't thinking about slowing down when the flop came. But as the action develops and new cards come you need to adjust your play. It's like if you were saying that you wait for pocket AA and when you have it you never fold it because you waited 7 hours to get them, even if your opponents clearly beats you...
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01-27-2016 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by CamNewton3
thats not what I was hoping to flop, yes it's a sick flop for me, but now we play for stacks and if he puts me on an overpair (what I represent), he'll only give me action if he beats it. Since he can't never have a big pair here he either has a 7 too or a FH or a good draw.

I get your point and I wasn't thinking about slowing down when the flop came. But as the action develops and new cards come you need to adjust your play. It's like if you were saying that you wait for pocket AA and when you have it you never fold it because you waited 7 hours to get them, even if your opponents clearly beats you...
This is not even in the same zip code.
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01-27-2016 , 10:02 PM
I would definitely bet the flop more than half the pot. For well disguised value. You raise 97s from the BB and smash the flop then make a 1/2 pot bet? Maybe this is your standard for c-bet size with 2 behind. Your image is TAG so I would exploit that here into getting more value on the flop as well as reducing the chance of getting raised with rags.

Why would a 6 give up on the turn when checked to? Because you check a Q in this situation?

What are you going to do on the river? Check again and then be faced with another decision?

I'd probably be inclined to shove the turn or just fold if you truly think you are behind. (I'd Shove most of the time given his image) While I don't think the raise PF was great you hit a dream flop and it's unlikely that it's in your perceived range. This lets him call you off with much worse on the turn if all he has is a pair of 6's. Any overcard on the river and that kills your action due to your perceived range combined with his estimated range.

I'm assuming you shove the turn because you didn't have the river in your OP. And folding would be anticlimactic.
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