Hero is white 20yo, been at the table for four or five hours and has played straight forward.

Villain is a middle aged black man, has been incredibly talkative, both about poker and just cracking jokes. He berated a fish for bet/folding and made a comment about how no matter what he had it was a bad fold because of pot odds, so he definitely has some poker knowledge (albeit coming off as an *******). He had been at the table for a couple hours, two relavent hands being that he was stacked for $500 KK v AA all in pre and had then commented on how nitty the table was. Then just a couple hands before the hand we played, Villain floated two streets vs said fish he berated and jammed river on a AJ510Kr board when the fish had donked flop (which he did a lot) and then barreled turn and river. Villain flipped up an 8 after the fish folded.

On to the hand...

Stacks are $500eff. Villain limps UTG, 3 others limp, Hero checks Q10o in the BB.

Flop comes Q103r. Hero leads for $7, Villain is the only caller.

Turn brings a 9 and Hero leads again for $18 and UTG calls.

River brings a 6. Hero leads for $35 and Villain raises to $175. Hero ?

Knowing the suits of all cards in this hand and your hand would help a lot.

Suits seem irrelevant to this hand, I did state flop was rainbow however. No back door draws came in.

I'm calling here.. This guy seems to be hyper fit or fold. Showing the 8 takes it to another level. This could be the time his KJ gets paid off but his range is wide open imo. Call and get your $ back + in 1/2 hour if he binked a set/straight.

Pre is fine. Flop is fine. Turn is fine.

I'm calling river. Only better hands are calling if we shove.

Whole reason why is because of V's description. Seems pretty on tilt and laggy.

This is just an exercize of what could he have...

and it seems like this:
most likely: JK, Q8-QJ,9T, 99, 33, 66.

You are winning most of the time...certainly more than the 35% ish of the time you need to call. Easy call IMO...

Is this $1/$2, $1/$3 or $2/$5? This is a math problem. Figure out your pot odds and equity against his range using combos in game or stove outside the felt.

J8, KJ and 33 beat you. Thats 35 combos! I probably fold if bluffs aren't in his range

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I can't see how bluffs are not a part of his range considering his description and the last HH.

I'm folding. Would be surprised if v didn't have a straight here.

I snap call, and call bs

This is 1/3

Fold. Without some sort of history where you feel he is likely to be bluffing, it is hard to see how you can be good here.

Without specific history vs Villain and with KJ/J8/33/99 all possible, that's a decent amount of combos, I just fold.

Calling isn't terrible though given description.

probably a fold? sounds like he got there w a straight/set. you claim your image is straight forward(assuming tight), villain is probably aware of this. he limped pre flop and then call calls. you bet 3 streets so you are claiming to have at least top pair. his range of hands that beat top pair are KJ, J8, 33, maybe 99, maybe 66 depending how loose he is. He also could raise Q9 here. It's hard to say with the limited information, but probably a fold

(the hand he shows an 8, he could definitely have had a Q to go with that 8, and is probably exactly what he actually had.)

It would also be helpful if you could provide some type of range for villain when he limp vs raises pre and his position

If this is 1./3 I don't like your bet sizing. I would pot pot the flop and turn. Can easily get called by lots of worse hands and draws. River would be 1/2 pot for value.

Not sure what I'd do vs the raise.
Likely fold.

Would you not take the pot/pot/half pot line in 1/2? What's the difference?

I would but if this is 1/3 then he didn't pot pot.