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Originally Posted by wj94
Keep getting yourself into 5-way pots with SPR 2 and A8o and let me know how it works out for you.
This is bad reading comprehension. As i explained, I dont get 5 ways because im not a bad sizing scrub. And ive already raised with WAY more than just A8o in this situation over a decent enough sample. i think my 1/3 winrate was about $70-80/hr over 300-400 hrs before i moved up to 2/5 a few months ago. I do it far less often at 2/5 because its much rarer to be at a table with all limp heavy loose passives.
But yeah reality doenst align with your pithy flame comment.
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Originally Posted by Amanaplan
Not many can play ATC against showdown monkeys and realize >0ev, perhaps you can, but recommending it as part of a routine winning strategy is bad advice. KQo is entirely different as is J2. You also left out range advantage and playability as parts of the holy grail which might be more important than anything else when showdown rates are so high.
AP easy call. You beat all Axhh, he could easily be moron betting a Q, or any number of hands that likely should have folded pre/otf. When he shows you 6x then you lose, but there is plenty worse out there.
Maybe, and I dont mean to suggets others should play ATC, but i certainly think people who can size their iso raise correctly (which i think he did) with A8o should be able to be played profitibly by almost anyone posting on these forums.
My big issue here is that these forums constantly tell people to fold certain hands (A8o) and to play other certain hands (KQo) someone irrespective of position. I dont think range advantage is part of winning at low stakes beyond the fact that your range is uncapped and theirs is capped. I would much rather have a weaker but uncapped range than a stronger capped one. So basicalky if you play a hand, you play it like its aces, which is why I extremely rarely call a preflop raise. If there was a raise in front of me, depending on V i may be folding AQo and AJs OTB, because id way rather play A8o vs a limp/call than play AQo vs a raise.
The typical LLSNL player seems to underrate how brokenly strong position is. Position > cards (unless the cards are QQ+)
Another thing to consider: would you raise A8o if it was folded to you on the button? if not thats a very tight fold. I mention this because I view limpers as a reason to raise, not as a reason to fold.
Last edited by Tomark; 02-21-2018 at 07:49 PM.
