Game is 1/2

This is my first hand at this table so didnt have any reads to go by.
V1 and V2 were both middle aged white men.

V1 is BB with 180 stack
V2 is MP with 300 stack
Hero is in CO with 250

MP raises to 10, Hero calls with KdQd, BB calls

Pot 31

FLOP Qs 7d 4s

MP bets 15, hero calls, BB calls

Good flop with top pair and a BD flush draw, I only call here to keep worse Queens and middle pairs in.

Pot 76

Turn 8h

BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets 45, BB calls, MP folds

Pot 166

I now bet 45 confident that my hand is good, probably should have bet more.
Point of betting is to charge for flush and straight draws and get value out of worse Queens.

River 3h

BB bets 125

Hero??

Operating with no reads here but the flush draw misses, villain could have 56 but since he doesnt raise the turn i feel this is less likely.
I also think that if V had a set or Q7, Q4, 74 he probably raises turn.
The hands that make the most sense here are missed flushes, Q3 or 73

Getting over 2:1 i think this is a call

MAWG call/call/bet is almost never a bluff except on suited flops that brick out. Since that applies here, and I assume the river bet is a shove, I guess I can find a call. Don't be surprised when he shows 7s8s, though.

BB had 180$ and now ended up betting 195$ ??? I guess he is more than allin on the end or he has more hidden money in the back?

I don't think Q3 or 73 is that likely, he wouldn't have called pre, or would have folded OTT.

He could really have slowplayed a set OTT turn 77 or 88 or 44 if he is bad and doesn't care about the draws. I think he most probably has a missed draw or a good Q thought, I would call.

Call. You beat enough missed spades and worse Qx combos to justify a call. I think villain slowplays a set here a decent amount of the time. I also expect to see 56 and 87 sometimes. Six set combos, two 87s, four 56s, maybe one or two combos of a really badly played AA or AQ. You only need about six worse Qx combos and missed spades to call

This is a close one, but when a player comes alive on river after playing passively all along, alarm bells go off in my head. That betting line at this level is just a strong tell of strength absent some player dependent read. I don't see many river shove bluffs with busted flush draws in the 1/2 and 1/3 games I play in. Having MAWG as villain makes bluff even less likely all other things being equal. IMO you could be looking at any combination of two pair, set or straight here and less than 1 in 3 chance of being good. I know its easier to write it down that to actually do it, but I think a fold here is proper even if "by the book" logic says call. The way players at this level over-defend blinds, this villain is probably just as likely to be holding specifically Q-3 than he is to be bluffing with a busted flush draw in this spot.
One thing I've learned playing live 1/2 and 1/3 is that you can never disregard chances that V is holding a goofy 2 pair combination. The hands our villains show down are all too often as goofy as the players themselves.

The bet was 125

Sorry should be 115 on the eriver

Q3 and 73 are not in his range. He either has a missed FD or 56, and I think 90% of 1/2 players are gomna show you 56, so without any reads I snap fold.

Anybody like a 3bet pre or raise on the flop?

Hand plays out diff if you play this more aggressively.

The line of cc/cc/ then bet I'd think your beat more often than not.

I like it a lot. Pop to $25 preflop to isolate.

Crying call.

I like it, but not against unknown opponents like here thought

They don't know you either. Great way to get to know them is to see reaction to a little pressure.

Do you play at the clubs at Kahnawake on south shore? I've been that way a couple times. I like Playground but rake too high for cash games.

Not a fan of either. We have no reads on villain. I'm happy to call with KQs and use my positional advantage. I'd start 3! with KQs if villain frequently opens for raises.

I was thinking $35 because I don't see MP raise folding much. Though the bigger size could narrow his range. Regardless though, just calling caps our range.

Anyway, when we just flat I think we have to raise this flop to $50ish with plans to shove any non-spade turn. One reason is for value--from weaker queens, underpairs and flushdraws (which we also conveniently charge). But perhaps more importantly to deny the BB from calling with whatever he has. Those goofy two pairs he shows up with are hard to see and not pay off.

I went with $25 because I want button and blinds out but I want initial raiser to call. I fold to 4bet. Assuming a call from initial raiser, I cbet every single flop and villain folds his entire calling range that fails to connect real hard with the flop.

Yeah definitely fold to a 4bet. I also prefer cbetting, but not if both blinds call. Only into 1 or maybe two opponents on flops like this.

PF: What position are we? Anyway...OK

F (31): SPR is 5.5 and ~8. Calling is fine.

T (76): Bet is fine. If you bet more, you've pretty much committed the BB's stack. BB has $110 left; has put in 38% of his stack. Right now, I'm thinking he has a draw.

R (166): Not sure how the BB bets 125 if he started the hand with 180. Anyway...Wow, did he really have 56 or a set this whole time? I could see 56 playing the hand this way.

I'm not so sure this is a call. I mean what hands do we beat besides a busted flush draw that would play the hand this way? We don't really beat anything. I mean, QJ doesn't may the hand like this.

Absent reads, I fold.