Live 1/3

Villain is unknown MAWG with 110 in his stack.

Villain opens from MP to 10

We flat call with KQo from the btn.

We sometimes like raising here but against an unknown with 35 BBs we decide to call.

Heads up to flop of K84r.

Villain leads 16.

We call.

Turn is a 3h that brings in a BDFD

Villain leads for 40 with about 40 behind.

We decide to jam here.

If villian has AA AK KK and sets, so be it. But on the flip side of that I'm not sure what worse hands he's betting for two streets here with. Also I don't really think there's a river card that could scare me away from a call so it seems kinda irrelevant whether we just jam or call.

Is anyone ever advocating for a fold here?

Also curious about this spot in general because I seem to get in it a lot, where I have top pair or middle pair and the villian only starts the hand with 30BBs and shows aggression on multiple streets.

Fold pre, not close.

Postflop you cant do much but stack off, you’ll be losing most of the time though

I was curious if someone was going to fold pre me here. What should my range be in this spot?

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Vs such a short stack and unknown, probably defaulting to something like KQs+, A10s/AJs, 88-1010, pretty narrow range and just 3b gii AQo+, AQs+, JJ+.

In general cold calling vs a single raise isnt going to be super profitable, esp moreso when shallow stacked considering no postflop manuverability/less implied odds/position advantage mitigated + rake. 100bb deep it’s ok to expand cold calling range but 35bb deep should be pretty tight

Easy fold for me preflop. Dude with a shortstack has opened UTG, so unless he's really super loose we're almost always dominated or have little IO against stuff like JJ-. The only reason I might consider a call here is if the blinds contain a deep whale and we're looking to play against them.

Postflop is exactly why this is a trivial fold preflop.

GimoG

This is assuming that the short stacker is well adjusted and a +EV player (def not the norm).

(To OP) The thing is if you can justify calling with KQ before the flop, there is no way in hell you cannot justify calling down with top pair as +EV.

If he is a good short stacker, he has either AA(probably), KK(unlikely), AK(likely), QQ or JJ(likely). Might have AQ (just to switch it up) or something like TT.

Alright.. but why?

(EDIT): Never mind.

You will never be against KJ or KT in this spot but I guess the money is going in anyway so it doesn't really change anything. You can maybe get QQ/JJ or even TT to call down, which is why your decision can be +EV against weaker short stackers.

You are basically -EV by default when you call a GOOD short stacker pre-flop with KQ and everybody else folds. Not by THAT much though so you can at least rationalize the call on your way home (or to the cashier)

The hand would have to have a certain type of Villain with very specific types of players in the blinds for me to cold call one raiser when I'm on the BU with KQo.

This is not one of those times.