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02-11-2019 , 01:32 PM

Kurn, son of Mogh

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1/2 $300 max buy-in. Sitting on $365, I cover all but the BB.

BB is very tight and appears to be competent. Others are typical 1/2 rec players.

I'm SB with Q

EP raises to $7, 2 callers to me, I call, BB makes it $25 to go. Original raiser calls, MP calls, BTN folds, I <sigh> call.

($105) Flop: Q

I check intending to x/r (does anybody lead out here?)

BB checks, original raiser bets $50, MP calls...Hero....

Does anyone not x/r. I have $340 behind and cover everyone but the BB. Shove or go $175 or so?

Just a sanity check.

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02-11-2019 , 01:41 PM

twitcherroo

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I would lead out here probably most of the time. AP I think shove is correct. There’s a lot of money in the pot with a strong but vulnerable hand. Time to get your chips in.

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02-11-2019 , 04:27 PM

Berge20

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Easy CR AI given stack sizes and relative position. Pot is little over $200 when it gets to you, so even if everyone else had $300, it's just a pot sized raise. Can do that with sets, FDs, OESDs, and top-two and be pretty balanced assuming you only have a few suited J9/KJ combos and aren't going crazy preflop with suited stuff.

The reason for checking the flop is that the BB is very often going to bet with AA/KK/AQ type hands when he has something he'll continue with, and you will occasionally trap additional money behind before springing the trap.

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02-11-2019 , 05:06 PM

tmo1120

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after x'ing flop, never not raising on this board; shove is fine given size of pot

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02-11-2019 , 05:48 PM

wait

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Eye

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02-11-2019 , 05:55 PM

aftrglw

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I think shoving is better than raising to 175. Shoving lays your opponents 2:1, raising to 175 pot commits you OTT anyway.

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02-11-2019 , 06:07 PM

MogFish

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Ship it.

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02-11-2019 , 11:38 PM

Minatorr

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jam

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02-12-2019 , 08:58 AM

Kurn, son of Mogh

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Thanks for the responses. I did jam and was only called by MP with the shortest stack.

Often when reviewing my play I wonder if I might have left money on the table.

I asked about the $175 amount because that covered 2 of the 3 opponents (BB had me covered). I was concerned that by shoving I might have made his decision too easy.

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02-12-2019 , 09:50 AM

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XtraScratch8

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Originally Posted by wait

Eye

Hahahahahahahahaha

But seriously, that.

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02-12-2019 , 10:01 AM

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colt45ss

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arrrr Aye , ship it , before off to sail the stormy seas of an all in on a most briny board in search of treasure

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