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02-16-2019 , 01:25 AM
$1/2 - Table just opened, this is the 1st hand.

V1 OAL - $225 - EP - Very face up nitty ABC old asian lady. I play with her a lot. She's very tight pre, comes in for a raise 1/2 the time she enters a pot. Only plays a strong opening range. Will fire her made hands and will barrel 1 street when she whiffs. Will absolutely fold big hands post flop when faced with aggression. I am very comfortable playing OOP with a range disadvantage against her.

H MAWG - $300 - SB - V views me as loose aggressive, plays ATC (relative to her super nitty opening range). I don't normally play back terribly light against her.

V1 opens for $12, BTN calls the $12, H calls from the SB w/ QdTd.

Flop ($34)
Qh10c3h

H checks, V1 opens for $26, V2 folds, H raises to $70. Me flatting or raising here will be both be viewed with huge suspicion by V. I figure as drawy as the board is V can put H on a bunch of draws and calls maybe lighter than she normally would.

Turn ($173)
2d

Obviously a great turn for H. V1 has ~$155 behind. What's the right line here? Bet $50-60 to milk V1, Bet $150 for fat value, check turn (V is 95% checking back, and only betting with a set, but she would have 3b shoved the flop w/ a set). V range here is AKhh, AJhh, (Maybe AThh), AA, KK, and AQ.

What's H's move here?
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02-16-2019 , 01:30 AM
All in, lock thread.
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02-16-2019 , 03:18 AM
Don't really like pre but idk since she plays face up
More flop, so turn shove isn't a question
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02-16-2019 , 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by monikrazy
All in, lock thread.
^^^

Don't see what the argument for anything else would even be.
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02-16-2019 , 05:53 AM
If you can see yourself folding when the straight or flush completes on the river, I'd suggest milking her with a 70-80 bet. If not, you gotta shove now and get max value. She plays face up so she would have reraised the flop all in if she had a set right? I think my line would be to shove here. I don't like our position so I'm trying to avoid having to make a river decision without the info I want.

(Noob new to twoplustwo so I apologize if I'm wrong or don't make sense.)
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02-16-2019 , 06:48 AM
Fold pre jam turn
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02-16-2019 , 08:35 AM
Ok thanks, I thought this was really standard. I did shove and she folded AQ face up. Afterwards I was thinking if V is over folding, why did I blow her out of the pot?
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02-17-2019 , 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by twitcherroo
Ok thanks, I thought this was really standard. I did shove and she folded AQ face up. Afterwards I was thinking if V is over folding, why did I blow her out of the pot?
Lol.

Yes, Shoving is terrible if she folds toptop and overpairs which are like 85% of her range. I "same bet" OTT, put it in on most rivers not an ace,2,3.

Some will argue that she will call a shove a lot OTT based on our image, but I find theses older tight regs don't make these adjustments. This is why LAGS really beat up on them. They overfold.
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02-17-2019 , 02:39 AM
lol, call flop and fold turn is about as bad a line as you can run there. I would say good fold and flash my hand there, btw, then go to town on future hands. "How do I get value out of this person who always folds" is the cousin of "how do I bluff this person who always calls". You don't.
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02-17-2019 , 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by twitcherroo
$1/2 - Table just opened, this is the 1st hand.

V1 OAL - $225 - EP - Very face up nitty ABC old asian lady. I play with her a lot. She's very tight pre, comes in for a raise 1/2 the time she enters a pot. Only plays a strong opening range. Will fire her made hands and will barrel 1 street when she whiffs. Will absolutely fold big hands post flop when faced with aggression. I am very comfortable playing OOP with a range disadvantage against her.

H MAWG - $300 - SB - V views me as loose aggressive, plays ATC (relative to her super nitty opening range). I don't normally play back terribly light against her.

V1 opens for $12, BTN calls the $12, H calls from the SB w/ QdTd.

Flop ($34)
Qh10c3h

H checks, V1 opens for $26, V2 folds, H raises to $70. Me flatting or raising here will be both be viewed with huge suspicion by V. I figure as drawy as the board is V can put H on a bunch of draws and calls maybe lighter than she normally would.

Turn ($173)
2d

Obviously a great turn for H. V1 has ~$155 behind. What's the right line here? Bet $50-60 to milk V1, Bet $150 for fat value, check turn (V is 95% checking back, and only betting with a set, but she would have 3b shoved the flop w/ a set). V range here is AKhh, AJhh, (Maybe AThh), AA, KK, and AQ.

What's H's move here?
Lead the flop.
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02-18-2019 , 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
lol, call flop and fold turn is about as bad a line as you can run there. I would say good fold and flash my hand there, btw, then go to town on future hands. "How do I get value out of this person who always folds" is the cousin of "how do I bluff this person who always calls". You don't.

I did exactly that, showed her the top 2, confirming that folding against me is the right idea. I'll continue to exploit moving forward.
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