Live 2-5 euro game in local casino, vil is young internet winning player in both plo cash and nlhe tournament. He aint a reg but he is definetly good, also he seemed active in late position from what ive seen the last orbits.

Blinds €2.00 / €5.00
10 players
Stacks:
CO: €1,020.00
Hero is OTB with: €860.00 and AhTs

PREFLOP
UTG folds
UTG+1 folds
MP1 folds
MP2 cals €5
MP3 folds
HJ folds
CO raises to €20.00
OTB raises to €60.00
SB folds
BB folds
MP2 folds
CO calls €40.00
Pot is €132.00

FLOP:3d5h9s

CO checks
OTB bets €70.00
CO calls €70.00
Pot is €272.00

TURN:3d5h9s9d

CO checks
OTB checks
Pot is €272.00

RIVER:3d5h9s9dTc

CO checks
OTB bets €160.00
Pot is €432.00

Why'd you 3bet preflop? Not saying it's a bad play, unless you didn't have a good reason, then it is.

I think it's possible to value-bet this river. I would need a strong read on villain to do it though because his worse hand calling range is pretty narrow (though I think you're ahead a lot of the time). It's basically only 66-88, and him calling with those hands is not a sure thing. Whereas it's not out of the realm of possibility for a player to take this line with an overpair, which are probably always snap calling.

So I would need to know that villain is capable of hand-reading and making a light call, and also that villain is not going to take such a passive line with an overpair. V in question might fit that description.

I dont know how good he can hand read but he made some big online cashes the past few years and i suppose he can hand read well.Thats the reason i 3bet ATo preflop, since i thought im ahead of his CO range most of the times and also i wanted to disguise my hand so i can play a big pot in position if i hit since we were both relatively deep.I had an ace blocker as well so less combos of hands he is gonna 4bet me with.

One more thing, we meet before at some bar since we have a mutual friend and played some online multiplayer games few years back but he probably doesnt remember me as i look like a recreational "Im here to have fun playing cards"guy.

Yes you're probably ahead of his range but ATo is a reverse implied odds hand here. Sure you have position but how are you going to bet for value postflop? If it's A-high he's probably only calling with better Ax, if it's T-high his continuing range is going to be polarized in which case it's irrelevant that you have TPTK.

You can 3bet light if you think he's raising too wide, or 3b wider for value if he's going to raise/call pretty wide OOP, I think AT should either be folded (if he's not raising especially wide) or just flatted (especially if he is cbetting a lot and A-high is going to be good often enough to call)

Your right about preflop play and of course i know 3b ATo is speculative even on the button for a live game but he will call a lot with small PP to set mine and even maybe small suited cards and definetly bigger suited cards like 9Ts+ vs my Obvious BIG HAND(i havent 3bet anything that far).

If you're really a rec guy who should seem weak to him, you need to barrel the turn or else your hand looks EXACTLY like what it is.

3bet on the button is a great play if your going to play creatively post flop..

But u just cbet and then gave up on turn... also its not a good enough hand on its own to 3 bet simply for pot building reasons as you implied..

For those reasons you kind of shot yourself in the foot here so to speak, and now the rvr has likely bailed you out ... So ya.

Just flat the CO raise here you’re in position against a good player who likely has a wide range. You’re beating a lot of his weaker Ax hands this way which you’ll keep involved by cold-calling and also keep MP2 (fish?) in the hand more often which is desired.

Not sure what advice to give as the way the hand is played seems somewhat read dependent. If you two have some sort of dynamic I suppose this is fine but would need more info to really justify this line.

Villain is 200bbs deep to start he’s going to flat more pp’s here than usual and there’s virtually little to no way he’s not calling our bet OTR. Maybe we do get some value occasionally from underpairs but if you’re going to take this line just barrel every street as it puts him in a much tougher spot. Not sure why we should ever check turn, bet river with an actual value hand when his range is narrower than usual and the board is this dry.

Grunch

So the 9 is actually a decent card to barrell the turn. There shouldn't be any/many 9s in villains range so barreling again will put pressure on 66-88 and 10s - Js and make him fold a ton of the time.

As played definitely value bet river to get called by 66-88, when you value own yourself that's ok, I think his calling range otr loses over 50% of the time.

What? We don't have to play creative post-flop if we 3b pre. We have the initiative. We can win without making a hand because we took the initiative. A 3b in this situation is fine if V is a wide opener. If not, then I just fold. I am never going to flat here.

There are two issues I see here. First, with a board that dry he is not going to be peeling with a wide range. What range is he going to call a 3b with out of position and then call a c-bet with on that flop? Depending on how good he is, it could be something as tight as JJ/TT or if he is not very good it could a wide range of hands.

I don't think he is checking a nine twice. He is going to be that on the river for value. So his range is likely JJ/88/maybe 77.

I think I like a check behind here, especially if V is good enough to bluff-raise this river.

Strongly disagree. We are going to get called down lighter here because of the board pairing. If V has 88, he is not going to fold to another 9 on the turn.