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Originally Posted by PFunkaliscious
I have run the odd man out play quite a few times...... (where you have two LAGS going at it with neither one probably having a pair, and then you bluff both of them because your table image is tight and you would have to have something strong in order to bluff into two hyper aggressive opponents.)
what is really odd about your hand is that V2 stuck around until the river, as if he picked up on something about your line that didn't make sense. but then, after he called you down until the river, he donks a quarter pot size bet where he is setting up an easy shove over the top.
so was your play too spewy? no. you had the right read and you made the right moves. but it came very close to not working. you were giving off a tell somewhere and in the future the probability of it working is not that good.
I don't think that hero was giving off a tell so much as V was a questionable target for a big bluff. Vs who don't fold AK or big pairs are not really good candidates. I think there are 3 things we need to be sure of before running a bluff like this: 1) V is capable of folding at least a pair, 2) they are very unlikely to have a big hand and 3) we're telling a believable story. Our answer to 1 is questionable... which I think is a lot of the issue and why it took all of hero's stack to make it work.
As a side point, I've noticed that most Vs are far less likely to fold to a flop raise than they are to fold on later streets. I've found in most LLSNL games I have the most FE on the turn...