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Tired of missing value or good play Tired of missing value or good play

10-19-2014 , 04:54 PM
Need some help here on turn play
I'm starting hand with 550 in big blind have j9 cc
Guy in mp makes it 15. I call. Makes 7 to flop
Pot : 105
Flop J 10 6 cc
I lead 35 on flop get 3 callers
Pot: 245
Turn : 5 c
So here I am got about 500 back everyone in hand got me covered.
I check ( please help here )
River 3 d
I bet 55 one caller I show and win

I think I'm giving tons of value up on turn against hands like kq , 89 and giving qj and kj chance to get to river free what y'all think
As I look back I think best play is 160 tun and have best hand against draws and could run out higher j's
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10-19-2014 , 05:13 PM
What are the stakes? I'm assuming 2/5.

Not sure I understand your lead, checking with the intention of calling is much better. Also, definitely bet the turn once you make a flush.
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10-19-2014 , 05:14 PM
you should be betting turn, but bet smaller to encourage calls from jacks and straight draws
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10-19-2014 , 05:16 PM
$150 - $200 on the turn, shove river

Just ask yourself: why are you playing J9cc if you don't intend to GII when you hit your flush?
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10-19-2014 , 06:15 PM
I turn the flush draw just one club on the flop
So flop j 10 5 one club turn 5 club
So flush draw on turn

Last edited by J4time; 10-19-2014 at 06:17 PM. Reason: Watching cowboys
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10-19-2014 , 06:31 PM
That's completely different if we only flop a bdfd.

I don't like the flop lead in that case.
A 7 way pot, OOP with TP meh kicker is a great recepie for losing money.

I'd check and either check/call or check/fold depending on the action.
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10-19-2014 , 06:59 PM
Why are even calling a raise with this hand OOP when you are sure that it's going multi way and you'll be in one of the worst positions post flop.

I really don't understand your flop lead or sizing or if there was a viable reason behind it at all?
Seems like you're just clicking btns, you're not making a better hand fold you're rarely get called by worse, unless they are calling raises with J6s+, I guess you can get called by str8 draws.
You're not making QJ-AJ fold OTR after checking the turn.

Only part I like is your river sizing targeting 10x.

Hope you don't take it the wrong way but I am really just trying to help, I would recommend on brushing up on fundamentals and hand ranges.

Last edited by Letmewin1; 10-19-2014 at 07:26 PM.
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10-19-2014 , 07:21 PM
If this is 2/5 then preflop call is ok. Check-raising this flop most of the time. Turn check is terrible. You planning to check-raise the turn? That just turns your hand face up, costs you value, and gives you no information about villain's holdings.
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10-19-2014 , 08:13 PM
Thanks letmewin I like the fed back. I think I was gonna check raise turn that was my thinking.
One thing I think I need to do is sloooow down and think plays out ........buttttt do u think this tips ur hands off in 2-5 games an lower
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