Tired of missing value or good play
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 21
Need some help here on turn play
I'm starting hand with 550 in big blind have j9 cc
Guy in mp makes it 15. I call. Makes 7 to flop
Pot : 105
Flop J 10 6 cc
I lead 35 on flop get 3 callers
Pot: 245
Turn : 5 c
So here I am got about 500 back everyone in hand got me covered.
I check ( please help here )
River 3 d
I bet 55 one caller I show and win
I think I'm giving tons of value up on turn against hands like kq , 89 and giving qj and kj chance to get to river free what y'all think
As I look back I think best play is 160 tun and have best hand against draws and could run out higher j's
Join Date: Dec 2013
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What are the stakes? I'm assuming 2/5.
Not sure I understand your lead, checking with the intention of calling is much better. Also, definitely bet the turn once you make a flush.
Join Date: Mar 2013
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you should be betting turn, but bet smaller to encourage calls from jacks and straight draws
Join Date: Sep 2013
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$150 - $200 on the turn, shove river
Just ask yourself: why are you playing J9cc if you don't intend to GII when you hit your flush?
Join Date: May 2012
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I turn the flush draw just one club on the flop
So flop j 10 5 one club turn 5 club
So flush draw on turn
Last edited by J4time; 10-19-2014 at 06:17 PM.
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Join Date: Aug 2013
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That's completely different if we only flop a bdfd.
I don't like the flop lead in that case.
A 7 way pot, OOP with TP meh kicker is a great recepie for losing money.
I'd check and either check/call or check/fold depending on the action.
Join Date: Nov 2013
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Why are even calling a raise with this hand OOP when you are sure that it's going multi way and you'll be in one of the worst positions post flop.
I really don't understand your flop lead or sizing or if there was a viable reason behind it at all?
Seems like you're just clicking btns, you're not making a better hand fold you're rarely get called by worse, unless they are calling raises with J6s+, I guess you can get called by str8 draws.
You're not making QJ-AJ fold OTR after checking the turn.
Only part I like is your river sizing targeting 10x.
Hope you don't take it the wrong way but I am really just trying to help, I would recommend on brushing up on fundamentals and hand ranges.
Last edited by Letmewin1; 10-19-2014 at 07:26 PM.
Join Date: Sep 2014
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If this is 2/5 then preflop call is ok. Check-raising this flop most of the time. Turn check is terrible. You planning to check-raise the turn? That just turns your hand face up, costs you value, and gives you no information about villain's holdings.
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 21
Thanks letmewin I like the fed back. I think I was gonna check raise turn that was my thinking.
One thing I think I need to do is sloooow down and think plays out ........buttttt do u think this tips ur hands off in 2-5 games an lower