Loose passive game with good energy and straddle
I have been aggro with frequent 2b and 3b IP

5/5/10 1.5k eff

Tight reg/pro opens 35 utg
I 3b KhKs utg1 to 125
Terrible Fish on btn cold calls
Utg calls

Flop Q95r (395)
checks thru

Turn 6x
Utg 210, I flat, BTN tank pissed folds

River 9x (815)
Utg 300, I call, UTG AQo


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Maybe results oriented, but feel I left value on table by surrendering the betting lead and UTG lost the minimum

Is flop bet better even on super dry board given mutliway and fish on btn?

Did I get the max from UTG or does controlling bet size out-weight flop check?

So why did you check a pretty safe flop 3-handed? Have to start there.

In a 3 bet pot there is rarely any reason to get creative and having 3 people in this pot the SPR is low anyways. People will be bluffing less and when the original raises checks there is no reason to think BTN is going to bet. If somebody doesn't have a queen checking likely just gives somebody a free card, if they do have a queen they won't give up easily. Just bet this flop, there is no reason to mess around unless you have QQ and need somebody to make a hand.

Not to mention he said his image is agro while the rest of the table is passive. You're going to get looked up for 3 streets by AQ/KQ and maybe even QJ here. When you build an image, use it to your advantage. Exploitative poker still has its place at all levels, but even playing GTO this is still a flop bet all day. If you're afraid you're going to shake them, you can always size down your bets on future streets.

I actually don't hate the hand as played as a way to mix it up sometimes. It seems like a good way to protect when we check our missed hands. That said I also think getting two streets of value by betting flop and river is another reasonable line and one I would probably use most often.

Ah good point on the image. My previous answer wasn't thinking about that. I think you sort of become an opposite player if you're not going to bet when you actually have it. So giving your image I would lean more toward being the aggressor and getting at least two streets of value but if you're image ever changes the more passive line that you played can make sense.

Check is fine as a mix otf but as played river should be r/f on this runou vs this betsizet. You rep very little since most don’t check KK+(nor should you since there’s fish in the pot) here, you dont have many nines and QQ is only 3 combos.

I think villain 4bets KK+ pre so 9 otr is great card for us to valueraise to ~860 and obv fold to shove. Villain has 12 combos of AQ that we beat and only 4 combos that beat us (99,QQ) so even if villain calls 50% time with AQ we make money. I’m assuming villain isn’t opening 55 utg since he is tight.

My guess is that your first thought was that this was a dry flop, so your plan was to try to let someone catch up or to slow play your hand. Pairs are not slow playing hands. He would have called 2/3 PSB on the flop and turn. It cost you over $200, which is several hours of profit. Huge leak.

If he couldn't have called the flop bet, he wouldn't call the turn either unless you let him get ahead of you.

I bet half pot on flop here. It's a rainbow so I wouldn't worry about betting more.

Indeed you did. I am sizing this flop to try and play for stacks if I can, so I am betting at least $180-$220 on this flop and if called continuing almost every turn.

I think your reads are off if a "tight reg/pro" is playing AQo this way.

I disagree. If a tight reg/pro thinks that both 3-bettor and button are spots with the 3-bettor being overly aggro, it has been played fine by UTG on all streets.

If Hero is right about his own image--aggressive with position--then a pro would realize that while Hero is aggressive when he has absolute position, this is a case where Hero is out of absolute and relative position, and thus Villain should probably treat Hero's 3bet as strong.

Hero is either wrong about Villain, or he's wrong about his own image. Hero would, as you say, have to be seen as an overly aggressive donkey for Villain's play to be good.

If villain sees hero as a aggrodonk, I’m 4bet/calling here w/ AQo 3way as the villain.

If villain sees hero as good reg and button flatter as a whale, calling is ok imo. Not great but justifiable.

Definitely bet flop. We don’t gain much by slowplaying. If he has a hand like JJ he’s not going to start shoveling money in on the turn because we checked flop unless he turns a set. Checking OOP to him would be one thing, but we definitely shouldn’t be checking back here very often if at all. The presence of the fish is all the more reason to bet.

Since utg wouldn’t have many or any draws in his range after he calls our flop bet turn is interesting. If you are only planning on going for two streets, you could check turn on this texture and then put in a healthy river bet. I probably just go ahead and bet the turn though while he knows his hand still has the possibility to improve.

This might be the worst hand to 3barrel for value or the best one to check somewhere so checking/betting ev run fairly close together. It’s worth noting that while KK is technically weaker than AA, KK doesn’t block AQ (important) and AA likes a check a little bit more than KK b/c of Ax (AJs,AK) improving sometimes. (Not terribly important but worth keeping in mind) AA and KK are perceived to 4bet pre close to 100% so KK doesn’t have any more combos to fear than AA.

If I’d go for 3 streets, I would be using small sizing.Probably betting ~160,260 and 380 while folding to a raise all the way. I dont hate checking turn tho.

I dunno. You got a tight pro to call your 3! OOP with AQo when you were UTG1. That is a stretch right there.

If you bet the flop, I don't think he is going to call the flop unless you bet like <170. And then, can you really get 3 streets of value?

Maybe if you go 150, 250, 275. But no way can you get 220, 330, 500.

If you were going to lead out, I think your best line would be 220, x, call/550. because after you check turn, V is going to be betting out on most rivers. And probably something that is going to be pot controlish around 350.

So if you left money on the table. It is not that much.