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Thoughts AA in this 2/5 spot? Thoughts AA in this 2/5 spot?

08-09-2019 , 09:10 PM
Hero $1400 - Was up to 2k but just lost with some small hands and AA vs quads on an 88822 board where I lost about $500 when the guy had K8. I felt like he could of had it too because he lead river for $250 and I just called and he was pretty lousy and would check back a lot of hands.

Villian $1000 - 40 year old asian guy Just sat down 30 mins ago and had a ton of orange chips - $1000 each - He was probably playing pit games because 2/5 was the highest game at the time but I don't think he was a good poker player. He was doing some fishy things like limp calling.

5 handed and hero is dealt AA in SB
Villain raises - one of his first raises to $25
Hero goes $125
Villain calls

$255
K32r

Hero goes $120
Villain goes $500

I mean I guess he could have 33 or 22 or a strangely played kk but this just seems so weird.

I don't really think i'm deep enough to fold this so I jam.

Thoughts?
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08-09-2019 , 09:11 PM
I’m thrilled to gii here. Doubt a set raises and raises so large in this spot. I expect to see AK far more often here.
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08-09-2019 , 09:26 PM
nhwp
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08-09-2019 , 10:11 PM
Get it in.
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08-10-2019 , 02:27 AM
How is this even here? Some baccarat whale is ready to gamble his tip money and you have AA on WKoGiv3sa2hit rainbow with 800 in the pot and you post it?
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08-10-2019 , 04:04 AM
The moment I see the black chips getting thrown into the pot my stack is already in there against this villain type.

If we're never getting it in with AA on this board we're never getting it in with AA on basically any flop.
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08-10-2019 , 04:16 AM
Yeah, so the stupid villain has 32 right?
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08-10-2019 , 05:45 AM
Lol why is this a thread?

I don't know V's position, but I would say that 5x'ing his 5x openraise with presumably no callers in the middle is unnecessarily big and will fold out a lot of hands you wouldn't mind playing against... but he called anyway, so whatever.
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08-10-2019 , 07:23 AM
Everyone settle down. Just because it is obvious to you doesn't mean it is obvious to everyone.

The issue is that his bet just became real money, not poker chips. I know everyone is supposed to be a super stud that is thinking, "9000 BB, great game, let's play." The reality is that there for all players a limit where the stakes are too high for them to play. The OP just found out where his limit is. If the OP started with 500, he would have had to call 255 to win 875. I don't think there'd be any hesitation.

In this case, just fold and leave the table until you can buy back in for 500.
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08-10-2019 , 08:03 AM
Villain is doing "fishy things like limp/calling?" Limp/calling isn't necessarily fishy unless hes doing it over and over and hes only been there for like 15 hands so that's not much of a read.

Back to the hand. There are no draws to worry about him hitting. There are basically almost no scare cards for either of you on the turn so why would we want to jam the flop? Just call and check the turn to him.

If he has QQ or worse, he's more likely to jam his own money in than he is to call an all in. If he has Kx or KK, then it doesnt matter.
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08-10-2019 , 12:57 PM
He had 33 for middle set, just unlucky I guess but figured i'd see a lot more Kx than 33. I wonder if I could of done anything different to not go broke, or do I just get stacked every time? Kinda sucks because I lost like $1600 in that one down with AA both times haha.

I jam the flop because who is folding after they put half there stack in? I'm also fine denying equity to any hand if he does infact fold after putting in $625 and leaving himself with $375
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08-10-2019 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by venice10
Everyone settle down. Just because it is obvious to you doesn't mean it is obvious to everyone.

The issue is that his bet just became real money, not poker chips. I know everyone is supposed to be a super stud that is thinking, "9000 BB, great game, let's play." The reality is that there for all players a limit where the stakes are too high for them to play. The OP just found out where his limit is. If the OP started with 500, he would have had to call 255 to win 875. I don't think there'd be any hesitation.

In this case, just fold and leave the table until you can buy back in for 500.
It’s realty more of a BBV than strat post from an experienced player. I suppose what actually happened here is an offshoot of what you wrote here. I disagree that a K is a pain point for OP, but rather having to make a 1k decision after getting 1500 melted off your stack might be where the pain point kicks in. The takeaway should be that clearly OP was more emotionally invested than usual in the second AA hand and doubt/biases crept in and it became a post. That’s a big mistake to have that impact decision making especially when those decisions are easy ones. Hopefully he got up down 600 and went home.
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08-10-2019 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Amanaplan
It’s realty more of a BBV than strat post from an experienced player. I suppose what actually happened here is an offshoot of what you wrote here. I disagree that a K is a pain point for OP, but rather having to make a 1k decision after getting 1500 melted off your stack might be where the pain point kicks in. The takeaway should be that clearly OP was more emotionally invested than usual in the second AA hand and doubt/biases crept in and it became a post. That’s a big mistake to have that impact decision making especially when those decisions are easy ones. Hopefully he got up down 600 and went home.
Nah I kept playing and won it all back +$350ish. Took about 8 hours though, ran cold for a long time

I would get emotionally invested after losing about $3000-$5000 which is my stop loss depending on the game. ($3000 for hold'em and $5000 for omaha)

I just added on for another $600 but still feel I could of played this hand differently - probably not though.

Sometimes I like to solidify my actions from time to time so i'll come on here and post hands. Why do you even waste your time responding to my threads if you think it belongs in BBV?

Last edited by djevans; 08-10-2019 at 06:20 PM.
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08-10-2019 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Homey D. Clown
Lol why is this a thread?

I don't know V's position, but I would say that 5x'ing his 5x openraise with presumably no callers in the middle is unnecessarily big and will fold out a lot of hands you wouldn't mind playing against... but he called anyway, so whatever.
I figured he would call pretty wide especially in position. I would of sized down vs a nit or reg. Probably would of made it $90-100. I actually think I could of gone $150 vs this type of player. I just don't see him check raising me here with out a really strong hand but in his mind maybe Kx is really strong.

He did admit he got really lucky after the hand but oh well. He was a nice guy and we were laughing but I was thinking WTF why did he have to have 33 in this spot lol. I don't think he would fold any "premium hand in his mind" to my 3bet. I'm sure you have played with these types of players before.
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08-10-2019 , 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by djevans
Nah I kept playing and won it all back +$350ish. Took about 8 hours though, ran cold for a long time

I would get emotionally invested after losing about $3000-$5000 which is my stop loss depending on the game. ($3000 for hold'em and $5000 for omaha)

I just added on for another $600 but still feel I could of played this hand differently - probably not though.

Sometimes I like to solidify my actions from time to time so i'll come on here and post hands. Why do you even waste your time responding to my threads if you think it belongs in BBV?
To spare the pain of others.
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