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Old 10-21-2016, 10:01 AM   #76
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To be perfectly honest I was button clicking in that hand a bit. Pre-flop I decided that they weren't calling 3-bets too wide, post-flop I decided they were calling pre-flops too loosely and I could take it down enough with a bet

In reality the latter was probably true and the squeeze was spew. However, I've noticed that a lot of players become much more weak/tight when the pots get big and are unwilling to continue in big 3! pots without strong hands, so maybe the line as a whole is not completely terrible against many players.

If they only continue with 99 or better then my line is probably profitable.
How much would you bet if you squeezed with this same 74s and instead of 832 flop, you got a 842 flop? Or a miracle flop.....874?
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Old 10-21-2016, 10:47 AM   #77
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OK this isn't my bluff, it's a funny one from a LAGtard on tilt but he's hero for ease of understanding.

So this LAG is currently down £1000 in this 9 handed 1/2 game which is curgently revolving around him and his dodgy plays/misfortune. He is sat opposite me. I have the best player at the table to my direct left. V is a tough, adaptable TAG/LAG capable of bluffing, slow playing, thin value betting, floating etc... if it's possible and +EV this V can and will do it at the right time vs the right player with the right hand.

Our LAGtard hero busts out for another £200 and leaves the table, i thought forever. I move to his former seat to escape the tough reg on my left. Shortly Hero returns and remonstrates with dealer that he said he wanted to keep his seat, I offer to switch seats back but hero graciously declines and sits in my old seat but asks for a table change. Immediately hero is dealt in and this happens...


OTTH:

Hero in CO has £400 is dealt 72o. Tough reg V on BTN has him covered.

Folds to MP who limps, folds to hero who raises to £10 in CO, V on BTN thinks then 3bets to £30, MP folds.

Hero quickly 4bets to £100. V tanks for a minute then calls.

Flop 633r, headsup, pot £200, stacks £300: Hero checks. V thinks briefly then bets £100. Hero quickly shoves for £300....
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Old 10-21-2016, 11:26 AM   #78
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Did V bet something on the flop?

I don't really understand your logic in this hand. If you think V has a big spade, but not a flush/set, he is still likely calling and he has a lot of equity against you. Why not take a card with what is likely the best hand and a pretty good idea of which cards you like?

Why can't he have a hand like AA, AQ, etc?

Why do you need to bet so big?

If you really think V is on naked spades then it's not a bluff and you want him to call.
Screwed up the HH. Flop was Q83 all spades, so I have a gutshot wo any showdown value. V bet 40 on flop and I raised to 140.

Anyway, I bet 400 to try to get him off the bare spade draw. Didn't work. He tanked for a while and called me with AsKc, which was the exact type of hand I was targeting for a fold. My read was strong but my spew was stronger.
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Old 10-21-2016, 02:48 PM   #79
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a pure tourist limps in MP ($40).

Cutoff ($1,000) raises to $12. He has been doing this from late position with a wide range of hands. I'm on his immediate left (I cover), and have mostly been letting him do so. I expect this time that he's trying to isolate the limper, and that he will play pretty straightforward and be bluffable if I call this time. So I call from the button with the abysmal 6d3d. Blinds fold, tourist calls.

Flop is 458 rainbow, with one diamond. Tourist checks, V1 bets $25. I call, tourist calls, putting him all in and creating a protected pot.

Turn is a 6, completing the rainbow. V1 bets $50. I expect this is an overpair, and know that I'm ahead of the tourist's range at this point. So I raise to $125.

Villain folded pretty quick. River is a 7, putting a straight on the board. Tourist flips over K3o, I show down my 63 and villain says "dammit, I had pocket 9s!"
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Old 10-22-2016, 07:22 AM   #80
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Hero in CO has £400 is dealt 72o. Tough reg V on BTN has him covered.

Folds to MP who limps, folds to hero who raises to £10 in CO, V on BTN thinks then 3bets to £30, MP folds.

Hero quickly 4bets to £100. V tanks for a minute then calls.

Flop 633r, headsup, pot £200, stacks £300: Hero checks. V thinks briefly then bets £100. Hero quickly shoves for £300....
lol, love this


Villain - ~$300, pretty standard loose passive player, kinda sticky post flop

Hero - covers, probably tag but i think im a monkey idk

MP limps
Hero raises $10 K9
SB calls
BB (Villain) calls
MP calls

Pot:$40
Flop:

873

Checks around

Turn T

Checks to hero who bets $30
Villain calls, rest fold

Pot $100
River:

A
Villain Checks
Hero Shoves eff. $200
Villain folds after ~15 seconds

I thought I had K but I couldn't remember and didn't want to check, felt like villain was sticky enough to sighcall a $50-80 bet with Tx, and I probably would shove here with my flushes but this strategy may be awful idk.
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Old 10-22-2016, 08:23 AM   #81
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^ Nice, the "I've forgotten my cards so I better bluff!"

The run out is good for a bluff though. Loose V has lots of 8X and TX and pair plus draws and bare draws. As is a great scare card.

I had the opposite the other day playing heads up vs a friend. I raised the turn allin with a tiny flush draw and using T 2nd top card on turn as a scare card. My friend called without checking cards. I missed my flush but hut a pair of 5s on river which I didn't expect to be good, went to muck my hand as friend triumphantly turned over what he thought was AT only to find he actually had A2 just before I mucked so I was good!
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Old 10-22-2016, 05:13 PM   #82
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yea i knew i had K9o with one spade and couldn't remember which one was the spade, I don't think it mattered too much though.
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Old 10-25-2016, 07:55 PM   #83
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OK so here is one from a little while back - I have mixed feelings on it.

I raise in EP with A8o my image is LAG but not too crazy. Button, who is playing 1/3 but does play higher sometimes, calls. Flop is Q85 and I lead he calls. Turn is a J and i bet again and he calls. River is a blank and i fire a big river bet and he calls with J5 and I was thinking dang I put him on QK or something.

I figured it'd be tough for him to call with 1 pair but I didn't put him on 2 pair.

Thoughts? Rating?
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Old 10-25-2016, 07:59 PM   #84
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OK so here is one from a little while back - I have mixed feelings on it.

I raise in EP with A8o my image is LAG but not too crazy. Button, who is playing 1/3 but does play higher sometimes, calls. Flop is Q85 and I lead he calls. Turn is a J and i bet again and he calls. River is a blank and i fire a big river bet and he calls with J5 and I was thinking dang I put him on QK or something.

I figured it'd be tough for him to call with 1 pair but I didn't put him on 2 pair.

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Spew on all streets lol
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Old 10-25-2016, 09:56 PM   #85
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Re: Tell me about your bluff today

My main question is why are you raising with A8o from EP? I generally play LAG and feel my EP raising range is at times way too wide and even so I would never even consider raising A8o from EP. I just can't envision much good coming from it.
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Old 10-25-2016, 10:03 PM   #86
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One from last night 1/3

A few limps and hero opens to $15 with 55 OTB and one limper calls. My read is passive fit and fold fish.

Flop Qj7r
V checks and hero c-bets $20 and v snap calls.
Turn A
Both check
River K
v checks hero bets $55

Thoughts?

I figured v would have any pair otf and check call my bets to showdown. After my c bet didn't win on the flop I took a free river and either value bet a 5 or bluff k or 10 river cards and fold/ check anything else.
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Old 10-26-2016, 07:09 AM   #87
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Tag $80 lj
hero calls co T8dd
bb calls

$250
T42ss
tag 120
h call
bb fold

$490
T42Ass
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h call

$930
T42A9sss
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Old 10-26-2016, 08:04 AM   #88
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I just told my girlfriend I'd take out the trash today as she was leaving for work, and she bought it! LOLZ what a fish! #sickonebro
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Old 10-26-2016, 11:21 AM   #89
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OK so here is one from a little while back - I have mixed feelings on it.

I raise in EP with A8o my image is LAG but not too crazy. Button, who is playing 1/3 but does play higher sometimes, calls. Flop is Q85 and I lead he calls. Turn is a J and i bet again and he calls. River is a blank and i fire a big river bet and he calls with J5 and I was thinking dang I put him on QK or something.

I figured it'd be tough for him to call with 1 pair but I didn't put him on 2 pair.

Thoughts? Rating?
Trivial fold preflop.

I'm either/or on the flop, betting or checking are both probably fine.

By the turn, you think he's going to fold TP versus a LAG image? Plus we have a showdownable hand (although one that is much harder to play thanks to being OOP). I just check and try to get to showdown.

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Old 10-26-2016, 11:28 AM   #90
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One from last night 1/3

A few limps and hero opens to $15 with 55 OTB and one limper calls. My read is passive fit and fold fish.

Flop Qj7r
V checks and hero c-bets $20 and v snap calls.
Turn A
Both check
River K
v checks hero bets $55

Thoughts?

I figured v would have any pair otf and check call my bets to showdown. After my c bet didn't win on the flop I took a free river and either value bet a 5 or bluff k or 10 river cards and fold/ check anything else.
After a few limpers I'm much more for simply overlimping, but our raise did get this HU in position with initiative against a passive fit/folder, so result is fine.

I'm also cbetting the flop, protecting my equity against A high hands and possibly trying to get a better hand (like 66) to fold.

Turn is weird cuz A completes some obvious two pairs and OESD, but also makes it harder for something like Jx or stubborn 66 to call. Lotta high pairs also have gutshot, not sure if they're folding. I lean to just giving up here.

Since I highly doubt we have much showdown value at this point, I don't mind our bluff attempt on the river, although I probably size it a little smaller so that it looks valuey and doesn't have to work as often to be profitable.

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Old 10-26-2016, 11:28 AM   #91
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I just wanted to say thanks to OP and posters for this thread. Bluffing is probably my weakest part of my game, so this is helpful.
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Old 10-26-2016, 11:31 AM   #92
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I just told my girlfriend I'd take out the trash today as she was leaving for work, and she bought it! LOLZ what a fish! #sickonebro
Risk (one very pissed off girlfriend when she eventually realizes you didn't take out the trash) simply ain't worth the reward (the 30 seconds of life you save by not taking out the trash).

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Old 10-26-2016, 11:31 AM   #93
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I just wanted to say thanks to OP and posters for this thread. Bluffing is probably my weakest part of my game, so this is helpful.
I wasn't sure where this thread was going but now I think it has some decent potential.

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Old 10-26-2016, 11:37 AM   #94
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One from last night 1/3

A few limps and hero opens to $15 with 55 OTB and one limper calls. My read is passive fit and fold fish.

Flop Qj7r
V checks and hero c-bets $20 and v snap calls.
Turn A
Both check
River K
v checks hero bets $55

Thoughts?

I figured v would have any pair otf and check call my bets to showdown. After my c bet didn't win on the flop I took a free river and either value bet a 5 or bluff k or 10 river cards and fold/ check anything else.
A is a great card for us to double barrel. We have a ton of Ax in our raising range, and the only hand he has that limps from EP, connects with the flop and has an ace in it is A7. I bet $50 OTT once checked to me. If called OTT I can go either way on the river bet. Again, we have more K's in our range, and he's very unlikely to have AK, but on the other hand he has more tens than we do. If called OTT, this is the rare run-out I'd triple barrel, hoping to put tons of pressure on Qx or Jx without a T.
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Old 10-26-2016, 11:42 AM   #95
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A is a great card for us to double barrel. We have a ton of Ax in our raising range, and the only hand he has that limps from EP, connects with the flop and has an ace in it is A7.
Villain is described as a passive fish, so I'm guessing he could easily have AQ/AJ/KT.

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Old 10-26-2016, 12:21 PM   #96
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If I have an ace then I bet it and get paid by V's qx or jx hands rather than running a probably unsuccessful second barrel.
Similarly if V showed up with an ace I think he leads the turn when he connects. I don't think a7/j/q are in v's range here as I don't think he would check both flop and turn and other aces would fold to the flop bet.

As it ran out, I think I gained a lucky opportunity to bluff although I would have preferred a k on the river as he's less likely to hold one.
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Old 10-26-2016, 02:40 PM   #97
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If I have an ace then I bet it and get paid by V's qx or jx hands rather than running a probably unsuccessful second barrel.
Similarly if V showed up with an ace I think he leads the turn when he connects. I don't think a7/j/q are in v's range here as I don't think he would check both flop and turn and other aces would fold to the flop bet.

As it ran out, I think I gained a lucky opportunity to bluff although I would have preferred a k on the river as he's less likely to hold one.
Many V's are going to check to the preflop and flop aggressor regardless of how strong their hand is so I don't think you can narrow your V's range much at all here.

V has so many two pair's plus pair/gutshots on the turn, I don't see him going anywhere.

Against passive V's I like checking back this flop. If they outflopped us, they will let us know by the turn. If they check the turn then they are basically giving you license to take the pot right then and there. Why risk c-betting on the flop when you could be betting into a strong hand?
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Old 10-26-2016, 10:03 PM   #98
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I just told my girlfriend I'd take out the trash today as she was leaving for work, and she bought it! LOLZ what a fish! #sickonebro
10/10 gonna be hard to top this one i lol'd pretty good!
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Old 10-27-2016, 12:06 AM   #99
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broke my #1 rule today and tried to bluff a MAWG off AA. At least it only cost me $1,000
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Old 10-27-2016, 12:59 AM   #100
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I just told my girlfriend I'd take out the trash today as she was leaving for work, and she bought it! LOLZ what a fish! #sickonebro
Good spew bruh! This one made me laugh
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