Pretty basic - H in LP w/ QJs, V in EP (competent TAG - good enough to be bluffed - can fold a made hand) makes it $10, 3 callers including H. Flop AJ9r, V bets 1/2 pot, only H calls. Turn is 7, V checks, H bets 1/2 pot, V calls. River is 8. V checks, H bets 2/3rds pot. V tanks folds. This is an excellent runout to to drive a competent V off TP, correct? Plus I block A's up and a set of J's. Thanks.

Well, it wasn't so much the river bluff by itself (which did end up getting him the pot, though with one AI that shouldn't have been likely). But the triple-barrel into half the table with basically nothing but FE...

1/3 nl 6 way limped pot and hero is in BB w 73hh. Flop comes Kh2h9s. Checks around. Turn is 10d. Sb leads for 15. Hero calls. Cutoff raises to 35. SB folds hero calls. River is 6s. Hero checks villain bets 35. Hero raises to 150. Villain snap shoves for 200 more. Hero folds. Villain tables QJo ��*♀️

I realize Im not repping much value but I dont think villain is thinking that deeply. River bet seemed so weak and I dont think villain was intending to induce as I hadnt shown any bluffs and villain had no hx w me. Thought we ran into the nuts is this a terrible play? Lol

No his raise was great, you rep literally nothing except like a slowplayed set of deuces.

Though this player probably wasnt considering what Im 'repping'...in my mind I def have all combos of 78, 22, and 66.

You're never call-calling turn with 66, and you probably don't play 22 that way either. I'll grant you 78.

Actually youre right i never have 66 lol

and i also probably raise the initial bet w 22 as well. actually i probably lead flop w/ 22 tbh so youre right again.

i guess i only rep 78 or 106.

Later streets are (mostly) massive spew, imo.

We should be folding to the turn donk (only getting 2:1 to chase the most obvious draw plus we have people behind us who could charge us more / have our small draw drawing dead). I guess calling the ~minraise isn't completely horrible because we are getting 5:1 and later street raises to this action are typically nuttish (so even though our draw is obvious and we're OOP I guess we do have some IO, although once and a while we have poor RIO when we flush up against boats).

Even though his river sizing is WTF, the river card ain't scary (we also rep nothing, would we really play a strong hand this way on this drawy turn?) and this guy just raised 2 people on the turn (which is super strong). I'd be attempting a river bluff exactly never here (and is why calling the turn raise ain't horrendous since our IO are ok).

GimoG

Hero is new to table maybe 4 orbits or so, 2/5 must move, currently 4 handed as some players are away from the table. V has been the most active so far, Hero, not so much.
UTG fold, Hero ($600 effective) opens $20 OTB with QsJc, SB fold, V calls from BB.
Flop ($38): Td8h4c
V x, Hero $25, V $85, Hero $225.

Didn't think V would play a set that aggressively. Even two pair seems unlikely as he scares away a lot of my range with flop x/r. Since we are uncapped we can get plenty Tx, J9, 97 to fold? We still have some equity against 1 pair hands if he continues. Thoughts?

Four-handed against an active V makes for some weird dynamics. I don't hate it, but I want generally to see a V have a raise/fold range before trying a 3-bet bluff.

I hate it. Why are we targeting J9/97 to fold? We're ahead! I'd far rather call here and play a turn. You could say, rip it in over a bet on A/K turns, continue calling on Q/J/9 turns, and consider repping hearts if checked to on a heart.

I don't believe there's a meta effect really, dynamic is too new/too short lived unless you've played with this V a loooot, but if we're doubting them for fast-playing a set, why can't they doubt us for fast-playing a set? If you'd play a set by calling the flop and bombing the turn, you want to play your bluff the same way...

Fair enough.
Yea, I thought the same at first (how would I play my sets), but then I thought, I still have all the overpairs that I WOULD 3 bet here. So between that and maybe a combo or two of 44 that I may fast play, is it really that terrible to fold out a straight draw after extracting $105? Also, there's no heart draw to rep. I do like your alternate line of ripping over A/K and continuing on QJ9 though.

Oh whoops, misread, I need that four color text, I read the red suits as both hearts... =)

I think the only thing that really wants to 3-bet IP on this board is like JJ/QQ exactly, overpairs where a lot of overcards can come. If you have AA, the only truly bad cards are tens really. So I'd personally just call everything that I'm continuing with, even the JJ/QQ, since the deception value gained by them not knowing which part of your continuing range you have makes up for the risk of an A/K/Q peeling when you have JJ exactly.

The best part is you gain both additional leverage and additional $$ when they do oblige with a turn bet/fold.