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01-04-2019 , 11:27 AM
2/5 limped pot.

3 limpers to hero on the button with A8dd. Hero overlimps. SB limps and we are 5 ways.

flop comes 754 with one diamond. Checks to hero. Hero checks

Turn Kd. Checks to hero. Hero bets half pot. Gets called by UTG and UTG +1 limper. Both are loose/bad fish. UTG actually picks up his cards and stares at the board like a novice/ indicating he is on a draw.

River 10x. Checks to hero. Hero bets pot.


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01-04-2019 , 11:31 AM
2/5 short-handed. Game playing semi-loose but not aggro. Its not a weak-tight game but not splashy either.

Folds to Hero raises 64cc in button. Only BB calls. BB is a fishy passive player.


Flop comes Jc9c3s. V checks, hero bets half pot. V calls.


Turn Qd. V checks. Hero checks.


River Jh. V checks. Hero bets 3/4th pot.


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01-04-2019 , 12:25 PM
1/3 NL

Villain is an 65+ year old white guy. I don't have a lotta history with him as I've just started seeing him more regularly around the room over the last couple of months, but he seems to know a lot of people (so it's possible he's a refugee from another room). Standardish OMC type, too loose preflop, passive, perhaps a little calling stationish, but definitely not spewing off money in any way and he's trying his best.

As I say, not a lotta history with him, but we've played probably at least a dozen times at the same table. If he's paying even the slightest attention, I should have the nittiest of nit images. I'm always the tightest at the table, and I've very rarely tabled a losing hand when looked up on the river.

Preflop: Bunch of limps, I overlimp 44 on the Button, he checks his BB.

Flop (6ways): T32cc, checks to me and I $12 into $18 (I probably should have gone smaller). He's the only caller.

Turn (HU): 5r, he donks $20 into $42. I call fairly quickly (OESD that could rep a busted flush plus intending to rep the flush if it comes in).

River (HU): 8ccc, he checks, I $45 into $82.

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He thinks for a little bit and then sigh calls with the big blind special of T3 (two pear).

I typically think a check/call/donk line is a pretty good hand, although his sizing suggested perhaps it was only TP.

I size the river valuey plus gives me good odds (i.e. it has to work a lot less than like $60), but I also fear it also isn't quite painful enough of a bet size (even though my story adds up 100%).



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01-04-2019 , 12:33 PM
^ GG

I would like the bluff idea a lot better if V didn't donk into you on the turn. When he donks like that I know he is in love with his hand and I'm only calling because I expect to gut him for a large bet if I bink a straight.


Like most bluffs, this one makes a lot of sense to try. its just a classic case of how 1/3 V's dont fold the river and aren't scared by the scare card. Ive basically dropped this play with the exception of older scared white ladies.
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01-04-2019 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by bodybuilder32
2/5 limped pot.

3 limpers to hero on the button with A8dd. Hero overlimps. SB limps and we are 5 ways.

flop comes 754 with one diamond. Checks to hero. Hero checks

Turn Kd. Checks to hero. Hero bets half pot. Gets called by UTG and UTG +1 limper. Both are loose/bad fish. UTG actually picks up his cards and stares at the board like a novice/ indicating he is on a draw.

River 10x. Checks to hero. Hero bets pot.


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Seems fine. I would go about 3/4 pot OTR. I don't think it changes their calling frequencies, and it save us a little money when it fails.

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Originally Posted by bodybuilder32
2/5 short-handed. Game playing semi-loose but not aggro. Its not a weak-tight game but not splashy either.

Folds to Hero raises 64cc in button. Only BB calls. BB is a fishy passive player.


Flop comes Jc9c3s. V checks, hero bets half pot. V calls.


Turn Qd. V checks. Hero checks.


River Jh. V checks. Hero bets 3/4th pot.


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I prefer a turn barrel, but it's OK.

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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
1/3 NL

Villain is an 65+ year old white guy. I don't have a lotta history with him as I've just started seeing him more regularly around the room over the last couple of months, but he seems to know a lot of people (so it's possible he's a refugee from another room). Standardish OMC type, too loose preflop, passive, perhaps a little calling stationish, but definitely not spewing off money in any way and he's trying his best.

As I say, not a lotta history with him, but we've played probably at least a dozen times at the same table. If he's paying even the slightest attention, I should have the nittiest of nit images. I'm always the tightest at the table, and I've very rarely tabled a losing hand when looked up on the river.

Preflop: Bunch of limps, I overlimp 44 on the Button, he checks his BB.

Flop (6ways): T32cc, checks to me and I $12 into $18 (I probably should have gone smaller). He's the only caller.

Turn (HU): 5r, he donks $20 into $42. I call fairly quickly (OESD that could rep a busted flush plus intending to rep the flush if it comes in).

River (HU): 8ccc, he checks, I $45 into $82.

Spoiler:


He thinks for a little bit and then sigh calls with the big blind special of T3 (two pear).

I typically think a check/call/donk line is a pretty good hand, although his sizing suggested perhaps it was only TP.

I size the river valuey plus gives me good odds (i.e. it has to work a lot less than like $60), but I also fear it also isn't quite painful enough of a bet size (even though my story adds up 100%).



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I would not bet flop smaller on this wet board (for a limped pot). I do go a bit bigger OTR. At least $50.
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01-04-2019 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Garick
I do go a bit bigger OTR. At least $50.
Yeah, I always seem to be tightroping a line where a smallish bet from a Super Nit looks like "please please please pay me off" (plus rarely has to work to be profitable) but the drawback is that it often doesn't seem to pass the pain threshold (which is likely fairly important to do).

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01-04-2019 , 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bodybuilder32
2/5 limped pot.

3 limpers to hero on the button with A8dd. Hero overlimps. SB limps and we are 5 ways.

flop comes 754 with one diamond. Checks to hero. Hero checks

Turn Kd. Checks to hero. Hero bets half pot. Gets called by UTG and UTG +1 limper. Both are loose/bad fish. UTG actually picks up his cards and stares at the board like a novice/ indicating he is on a draw.

River 10x. Checks to hero. Hero bets pot.


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How much did you actually bet? There was only $25 minus rake in the pot. You bet $10? If so, I hate the turn bet and the river bluff.
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01-04-2019 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bodybuilder32
2/5 short-handed. Game playing semi-loose but not aggro. Its not a weak-tight game but not splashy either.

Folds to Hero raises 64cc in button. Only BB calls. BB is a fishy passive player.


Flop comes Jc9c3s. V checks, hero bets half pot. V calls.


Turn Qd. V checks. Hero checks.


River Jh. V checks. Hero bets 3/4th pot.


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You really need to give bet and raise amounts. This hand is totally different if you raised to $15 or $25 preflop. All bet sizes would be quite a bit different depending on preflop raise and that makes a huge difference in ranges.
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01-04-2019 , 05:11 PM
1/3 1800 eff.

five limps to H in SB with xx. raise to 20. two callers. MP caller is solid young Asian player. Button caller is LAG. Hero has nitty table image and has been card dead for 3 hours and played like 4 hands.

(70)

Q T 6

H bet 50. call. call.

(220)

Q T 6 K

H bet 125. tank fold. call.

(470)

Q T 6 K A

Hero donks 600.

Good?

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V on the button tanks hard. Says he KNOWS that H does not have a J. Counts out the call and cannot pull the trigger on a call. Shows T3 with disgust and folds. H shows two red fives. MP said he folded Q9.

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I was the V. H racks up after the hand is over
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01-04-2019 , 05:17 PM
Pre spoiler: Atrocious, if it's a bluff, on that board, though these players might be able to fold. Line reps 2p+ quite well, but few LLSNL can fold flopped TP, even when it no longer is TP. Might get folds from FDs, maybe 9sTs.

Post spoiler: Don't show. Shocked a LAG doesn't raise that on the flop.

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01-04-2019 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
You really need to give bet and raise amounts. This hand is totally different if you raised to $15 or $25 preflop. All bet sizes would be quite a bit different depending on preflop raise and that makes a huge difference in ranges.
$15 pre.

$15 flop

$45 river.
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01-04-2019 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
How much did you actually bet? There was only $25 minus rake in the pot. You bet $10? If so, I hate the turn bet and the river bluff.
$15 turn

$60 river (a little less than pot)

Could have went smaller on the river to $50 but sized up a smidge just to not get a f*ck it call by any small pair.
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01-04-2019 , 05:37 PM
Bodybuilder,

I dont hate either of your bluffs but they are so different from how I play I cant decide if I like them or not either.

Id bet full pot on the turn with the Ad8d. You have a FD, a gutshot and your Ace is probably good if it hits the river....but Id rather also just take it down with A high so I would bet $25 on the turn. Your $15 bet changes their ranges quite a bit. Im torn on the river bluff.
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01-04-2019 , 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by bodybuilder32
2/5 limped pot.

3 limpers to hero on the button with A8dd. Hero overlimps. SB limps and we are 5 ways.

flop comes 754 with one diamond. Checks to hero. Hero checks

Turn Kd. Checks to hero. Hero bets half pot. Gets called by UTG and UTG +1 limper. Both are loose/bad fish. UTG actually picks up his cards and stares at the board like a novice/ indicating he is on a draw.

River 10x. Checks to hero. Hero bets pot.


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I would have bet the flop. As played people don't often check twice and call-down, so you're probably going to make it through, but you may have the best hand anyway.

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Originally Posted by bodybuilder32
2/5 short-handed. Game playing semi-loose but not aggro. Its not a weak-tight game but not splashy either.

Folds to Hero raises 64cc in button. Only BB calls. BB is a fishy passive player.


Flop comes Jc9c3s. V checks, hero bets half pot. V calls.


Turn Qd. V checks. Hero checks.


River Jh. V checks. Hero bets 3/4th pot.


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I'd play it like this. I wouldn't mind over-betting the river, even. Repping Jx is very credible. I think checking the turn is fine.

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Originally Posted by PFunkaliscious
1/3 1800 eff.

five limps to H in SB with xx. raise to 20. two callers. MP caller is solid young Asian player. Button caller is LAG. Hero has nitty table image and has been card dead for 3 hours and played like 4 hands.

(70)

Q T 6

H bet 50. call. call.

(220)

Q T 6 K

H bet 125. tank fold. call.

(470)

Q T 6 K A

Hero donks 600.

Good?

Spoiler:
V on the button tanks hard. Says he KNOWS that H does not have a J. Counts out the call and cannot pull the trigger on a call. Shows T3 with disgust and folds. H shows two red fives. MP said he folded Q9.

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I was the V. H racks up after the hand is over
$600 narrows ranges too much. I'm not sure it's a +EV bluff even if villain only ever calls with Jx. Villain has much more Jx than hero as well, as QJ/JT/JJ would often be checked at some point by hero (and JT/QJ/KJ maybe not raised pre from SB over limpers). It is a fishy bet and may get hero-called anyway if villain isn't lucky enough to have one of the many Jx combos in his range.
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01-04-2019 , 11:50 PM
Somehow ended up on the "old man table" on New Years eve and they were all playing super face up with massive sizing tells. This isn't a huge spot by any means and not a line id normally attempt against a field of regs, but it is what it is. 1/2, everyone in the hand has $300-$350 , hero covers slightly.

Kinda spewy old man in his 70s opens to $12 UTG1, gets 4 callers, and H decides to splash around with them and completes with 65

Flop: $65 (after rake) K54

H checks, Old man V c-bets $12, gets 2 callers. For such a small size with a pair and backdoors, and because it's lol New Year's eve, H makes the call.

Turn: $113 10
Action checks through

River: $113 2
H checks, 70s old man looks visibly upset, shaking his head and mumbling to himself (zero chance this is an act), and finally settled on a bet of $5...Yes, $5. Next to act tanks and you can tell he doesn't even want to call $5, but eventually he begrudgingly tosses in a red bird. The other player starts laughing and flings in a red bird as well, throwing it high in the air towards the pot. H thinks for about 5 seconds and puts in the c/r to $95. Figured if I was going to attack this obvious weakness I wanted to use a sizing that would deter possible small diamonds from calling. All 3 Vs cards hit the muck almost simultaneously. H shows the 65 as the pot is being pushed to him....This is just one small example why I wish it was NYE every night.
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01-05-2019 , 12:12 AM
Not the most inventive but:

2/5

EP limp
Hero CO 25 AKo
BTN calls
Ep calls

Flop: JJ6r

Checks around

Turn: 6

Checks around

River: J

EP bets 35
Hero raises to 85
BTN folds
EP thinks for 20 seconds and folds
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01-05-2019 , 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Garick
Pre spoiler: Atrocious, if it's a bluff, on that board, though these players might be able to fold. Line reps 2p+ quite well, but few LLSNL can fold flopped TP, even when it no longer is TP. Might get folds from FDs, maybe 9sTs.

Post spoiler: Don't show. Shocked a LAG doesn't raise that on the flop.

Normally that is a snap raise for me. especially on the button. But the SB was playing so freaking tight that I did not think I had any FE on the flop when he raised pre and then bet out into two of us.

Also, my table image was trash. I bought in for 200 and ran it up to 1800 in three hours with a 50% VPIP and having the deck hit me over the head with every single semibluff I had.
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01-05-2019 , 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by bodybuilder32
2/5 limped pot.

3 limpers to hero on the button with A8dd. Hero overlimps. SB limps and we are 5 ways.

flop comes 754 with one diamond. Checks to hero. Hero checks

Turn Kd. Checks to hero. Hero bets half pot. Gets called by UTG and UTG +1 limper. Both are loose/bad fish. UTG actually picks up his cards and stares at the board like a novice/ indicating he is on a draw.

River 10x. Checks to hero. Hero bets pot.


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You’re not really repping anything. You’re raising your strong Kx pre. If you limped weak Kxs then a lot of those hands are two pair OTT and you’d certainly be betting more than half pot with Kx+. Even a hand like T7 would bet the flop or the turn bigger.

Half pot turn -> pot river doesn’t really make sense given the board and your action thus far. I would snap this bet off with any pair but you probably had the best hand or snuck one by 5x/4x. Kx or Tx is snap calling and there should be a lot of TX hands out there.
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01-05-2019 , 10:38 AM
1/2 Game. Table is overall weak/tight and Villian is 40's white guy. I've played many hours with him as he is a semi-weekend-regular (plays 1-3 weekends per month). Plays ABC poker and appears to beat this game with lots of TPGK+ value bets on each street. Runs occasional bluffs. Knows I'm TAG and willing to play for stacks in a variety of situations so mostly avoids me, especially deep.

Hero is 30's WG with $240 effective (max buy in $200)

OTTH
Folds to Hero in CO who makes it $12 with AQcc. V in SB makes it $32. His 3bet range here is TT+,KQs+. Maybe a hair stronger since OOP. I think about 4 betting but decide to call.

Flop ($60)
974r

Villian bets $30. (Villian tends to have a sizing tell. Against most players he knows 'any bet' shows strength. So the weaker the bet the weaker the hand.) Hero likes this flop for bluffing (I think he folds all non-pairs to a raise and can let go TT/JJ to me) and calls to bluff turn.

Turn 9 ($120)
Villian bets $40. Hero thinks and raises $100 with about $40 behind.

Thoughts? Is shove a better bluff? Should I have raised a previous street or preflop?

Marsh

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As I write this out it sounds much weaker than it appeared in game. My goal was to represent a tricky QQ+ or 109s, 89s,77. I know most players cannot fold TT+ on a 9 high board, but this guy could. However, he was getting 4:1 to call so maybe the stronger play was making a larger raise on a previous street.
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01-05-2019 , 11:28 AM
If youre going to bluff I think you have to jam the flop (not saying I would do that). Nobody will ever believe you have 9x in a 3 bet pot and I think most villains will believe themselves to be pot committed by the time you raised the turn.
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01-05-2019 , 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeStarr
If youre going to bluff I think you have to jam the flop (not saying I would do that). Nobody will ever believe you have 9x in a 3 bet pot and I think most villains will believe themselves to be pot committed by the time you raised the turn.
Yeah I agree with you. I'll move it to the flop next time. And he eye balled me for a good 20 seconds and grumbled something about being surprised that flop hit me as he folded. I suppose that means he had no pair? I don't think he ever folds AA/KK there.

Marsh
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01-05-2019 , 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Garick
Pre spoiler: Atrocious, if it's a bluff, on that board, though these players might be able to fold. Line reps 2p+ quite well, but few LLSNL can fold flopped TP, even when it no longer is TP. Might get folds from FDs, maybe 9sTs.

Post spoiler: Don't show. Shocked a LAG doesn't raise that on the flop.
Did you miss that Jx is a straight? He is repping broadway and only broadway when he bets 1.3x pot on a 4-liner. It's pretty bad with any hand when villain has a ton of combos of Jx, except as some sick level to get weak hands to hero call when we have what we're repping. Villain did almost call with T3, lol.
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01-05-2019 , 01:10 PM
No, I didn't miss that. That's why it is a bad board to bluff, even though the line is pretty convincing.
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02-22-2019 , 12:52 PM
Not my bluff, but so insane/audacious it rates a post here...

Borgata 1/2, past midnight Saturday.

Button is a young Filipino guy, making weak calls but always holding something when he bets.

PF: UTG raises to $15. Five players call, including button.

Flop ($90): 652r
Checks to button, who bets $30. Everyone but me calls.

Turn ($240): 9 puts two spades on board.
Checks to button, who bets $125. Everyone calls; HJ is all in for $1 more, everyone calls that.

River ($871): red A
Checks to button, who looks around at remaining stacks and bets $300, covering all.
Fold, fold, fold.

Showdown vs. the turn all-in, button shows...KQo for the nut nothing. Everyone goggles at his cards, and HJ mucks.

PFR claimed to have had KK (!!). CO I'm sure had spades with straight outs. No idea what the other two had.
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02-22-2019 , 01:24 PM
Yeah, to me it's such an insane bluff since there is a $0 sidepot and the main pot is protected. But I've seen enough of these lol cases actually end up working (as it did here) that I almost think I'm missing something.

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