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12-11-2016 , 07:34 PM
one of my favorite "bluffs" i've ran in awhile
2/5 game SUPER loose about nearly every hand has a $10 straddle w/ 2k
villian is on super tilt down 5k+ in game opening/3bing every hand. check/folding or check/raise then c/f if he misses flop potting (almost to the dollar) when he hits or gets a draw every hand etc just reloaded for 1.5k

QKhh on button
$10 UTG straddle

villian in MP opens to $65 (was the standard open for the game when straddled )
I call and its hu
flop 9h7x3x
he checks
I bet $75
he raises to 155
I call
turn Th
he checks
I bet $275
he calls
turn Ad
he checks
i bet $395
he insta snaps throws 4 black chips
"king high"
throws QJo very angerly at dealer and racks up what he has left, kicks chair and storms out
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12-13-2016 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by br3nt00
So I thought I'd mix it up a bit, partly since Garick mentioned we needed balance. One of these is a bluff, and the other is not. And these may or may not be in chronological order.

Both at 1/3 NL

Hand #1
Effective stacks 400
Villain is a casual player who is playing poker for a bit while his friends are off doing something else. He knows how to play but my guess would be he mostly plays home games and not much in a poker room.

V raises to 10 from MP and I call out of the SB with XX along with ~3 others.
Flop is A3Q rainbow, I check, villain bets 20, it folds to me and I call (HU now).
Turn is a 2 full rainbow, I check, villain bets 30, I raise to 80, and he thinks for a bit and calls.
River is a 9 and I go all-in for about 290.

Hand #2
Effective stacks 600
Villain is wearing a suit and appears to be a businessman, he is on the list for 2/5. He sat down maybe 15-30 minutes ago and once went all-in on a pretty wet flop after a bet and call. Both folds so don't know what he had.

A couple of limps to me on the button and I raise with XX to 20, V calls from the SB and 1 other caller in MP.
Flop is 24Q rainbow, it checks to me, I bet 40, V calls, and MP folds (HU now).
Turn is a 7 also bringing a diamond draw, he checks, I bet 85, and he thinks for a bit and calls.
River is an offsuit 8, he checks, and I go all-in for about 455.

I have some thoughts on why in 1 case I thought I could get a fold and in the other case why I thought I could get a call, I'll post them in a bit.
H1:

I'm guessing this is the value hand, because when a home casual player raises preflop and bets this flop 5ways and continues on the turn (and calls a check/raise no less), he's never folding and often has a monster (where AK is a monster for him). Bluffing here would be lighting money on fire.

H2:

I'm not really a fan of 4barrel bluffs (although admittedly I'm really undecided on them and think with my image perhaps I should regularly incorporate them into my play against known opponents, which I simply haven't had the balls to do yet). But against a guy who looks like he's a casino reg and perhaps plays a bigger game and who didn't check/raise the board when it got more drawy (thus more likely he only has one pair), I'm guessing this works a decent amount of the time. Course it's also possible this is just play money for this guy and he's wondering how you could possible have QQ when he has Qx and isn't used to seeing people go for 4 streets with AA, so he'll look you up a decent amount to. Still, a lot better bluff than H1, imo.

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05-31-2017 , 11:12 PM
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1/2 Eff stack $100, zero history, hero just sat down.

Folds to Hero OTB raises to $7 w/ JThh

SB folds BB calls

Pot $15
Flop Qs9d4h

BB x, hero bets $10, BB calls

Pot $35
Turn 2c
Villain x, hero x

River As
Villain x, hero bets $35

Villain, "I'll probably lose, but I call anyways"... villain wins with pair of fours (Tc4c)


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06-01-2017 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by WhskyRiv
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1/2 Eff stack $100, zero history, hero just sat down.

Folds to Hero OTB raises to $7 w/ JThh

SB folds BB calls

Pot $15
Flop Qs9d4h

BB x, hero bets $10, BB calls

Pot $35
Turn 2c
Villain x, hero x

River As
Villain x, hero bets $35

Villain, "I'll probably lose, but I call anyways"... villain wins with pair of fours (Tc4c)


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One of the keys here is Villain is unknown. We don't know if he has a fold button. We also don't have an image with him (i.e. a tight solid always-has-the-nuts image where a bluff will work).

This is also a pretty good example of why a bet/checkbehind/bet is often good for two streets of value against a lot of opponents. The checkbehind on the turn shows weakness plus takes away the threat of playing for stacks, and now they can just see a showdown for one more bet on the river. It's a good line for value, but not so much for bluffs (even if the river card is scary).

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06-01-2017 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
One of the keys here is Villain is unknown. We don't know if he has a fold button. We also don't have an image with him (i.e. a tight solid always-has-the-nuts image where a bluff will work).

This is also a pretty good example of why a bet/checkbehind/bet is often good for two streets of value against a lot of opponents. The checkbehind on the turn shows weakness plus takes away the threat of playing for stacks, and now they can just see a showdown for one more bet on the river. It's a good line for value, but not so much for bluffs (even if the river card is scary).

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06-01-2017 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by WhskyRiv
Try to rekindle this thread...

1/2 Eff stack $100, zero history, hero just sat down.

Folds to Hero OTB raises to $7 w/ JThh

SB folds BB calls

Pot $15
Flop Qs9d4h

BB x, hero bets $10, BB calls

Pot $35
Turn 2c
Villain x, hero x

River As
Villain x, hero bets $35

Villain, "I'll probably lose, but I call anyways"... villain wins with pair of fours (Tc4c)


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This one seems fine, except I think you can bet $20 on river and get folds from about the same universe of cards as your PSB.
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06-01-2017 , 12:32 PM
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Ha, now all we have to do is make a hand... which will probably occur about an hour after he's left the table.

ETA: FWIW, against a known opponent with a fold button where I have a well known nitty image, this will work most of the time on this river card ("****, I let you get there"), and +1 to the above suggestion of making a much smaller value-looking bet in this case.

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06-01-2017 , 12:55 PM
I had a pretty bad one the other day.

I have a very tight image, been really card dead.

Kid does not know me but he appears to be a regular. Huge showboat, playing 50% of hands and running well. Pretty big station.

2/5 $500 eff

We $15 UTG, 4 calls including kid otb.

Flop ($70) 347

All check to kid who bets $25. We call, rest fold.

Turn ($130) 347 2

Checks through

River ($130) 347 2 J

We $200

I rep literally nothing but at the same time what non value hand do I play this way? Lol
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06-01-2017 , 01:02 PM
Would be a sick with AJ.
Which is basically always the nuts here.
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06-01-2017 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch
Would be a sick with AJ.
Which is basically always the nuts here.
After the results of the hand, I thought the same thing my friend.
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06-01-2017 , 01:47 PM
1/3

Villain is a fairly tight player. Even seeing him raise is quite a surprise. Has some obvious sizing tells. Hero has TAG winning image

Hero limps in EP with 44

MP limps

Villain raises to 15 in LP

SB calls, BB calls, hero calls, MP folds

Flop: A79 (pot=$60)

Checks to villain, villain bets 25

Folds to hero, hero raises to 75, villain folds

Told myself Villain is never betting that amount with any Ax that could stand up to pressure or any other hand for that matter. By the speed of which he folded I'd say this wasn't a big PP but instead a standard "I have the initiative and there's an ace on the flop, better bet."
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06-01-2017 , 01:49 PM
I can see myself tanking with a variety of holdings facing that action. Would be a serious wtf.
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06-01-2017 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by NebDanger
1/3

Villain is a fairly tight player. Even seeing him raise is quite a surprise. Has some obvious sizing tells. Hero has TAG winning image

Hero limps in EP with 44

MP limps

Villain raises to 15 in LP

SB calls, BB calls, hero calls, MP folds

Flop: A79 (pot=$60)

Checks to villain, villain bets 25

Folds to hero, hero raises to 75, villain folds

Told myself Villain is never betting that amount with any Ax that could stand up to pressure or any other hand for that matter. By the speed of which he folded I'd say this wasn't a big PP but instead a standard "I have the initiative and there's an ace on the flop, better bet."
These don't translate well to online evaluation, cause ppl will want you to have equity, and they will be scared villain is calling with and ace, any draw, possibly and 8 or 6.

But sometimes live you just know they dont want to fight over the pot, they just want a quick conclusion to the hand and your cards dont matter very much.
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06-01-2017 , 02:07 PM
2/5 9-handed

UTG ($500) straddles to 10
Folds to BTN
BTN ($1K) calls
Hero (BB) ($1K) calls with 7c6c
UTG raises to $20
BTN calls
Hero (BB) calls

Flop ($60) Ad Jd 6h
checked around.

Turn ($60) 7h
H checks
UTG bets $40
BTN calls
Hero raises to $150 (this shoulda been more like $200)
UTG folds
(at this point, hero realizes he actually looked down at 6c5c, not 7c6c.)
BTN calls

River ($400) Ks
H bets $400 (both flush draws bricked, scare card for J on down, there's a ton of flush draws that will accidentally win if checked down, story is plausible from turn)
V tanks for maybe a minute and calls.

And rolls over Jh5h.
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06-01-2017 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by WhskyRiv
Try to rekindle this thread...

1/2 Eff stack $100, zero history, hero just sat down.

Folds to Hero OTB raises to $7 w/ JThh

SB folds BB calls

Pot $15
Flop Qs9d4h

BB x, hero bets $10, BB calls

Pot $35
Turn 2c
Villain x, hero x

River As
Villain x, hero bets $35

Villain, "I'll probably lose, but I call anyways"... villain wins with pair of fours (Tc4c)


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Thanks for restarting, bluffing is my weakest area of the game, so this helps.
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06-01-2017 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by hitchens97
Thanks for restarting, bluffing is my weakest area of the game, so this helps.


Same here, reading through this post is great. It gives you a whole different perspective.


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06-01-2017 , 05:23 PM
By far my biggest (semi-)bluff of all time so have to post. Probably spew, but I only did it because of a live read and ended up being right (or lucky).

5/10, $3k eff

V has been opening a lot in all positions, been snap-folding to most 3-bets so far
H has tight aggressive image, a few 3-bets so far this session

V opens $40 utg+1
2 calls
H 3-bets to $200 from the hj with J9
folds to V who 4-bets to $500
2 folds
H calls.

$1080
Flop AQT
V insta-bets $800
I almost just mucked but decided that based on villain's combined pacing and sizing of the bet that he was likely just clicking buttons here and didn't have a nutted hand.
H jams for $2500
V says "well I guess you have me beat" and mucks KK faceup.

I almost never show bluffs but had to show that one
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06-01-2017 , 05:34 PM
Well someone was definitely clicking buttons.

Glolz,niceresultG
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06-01-2017 , 05:54 PM
Dude that is spectacular spew lol
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06-01-2017 , 06:02 PM
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Dude that is spectacular spew lol
Ż\_(ツ)_/Ż
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06-01-2017 , 08:54 PM
Not sure if this was super spewy or not.

3/5. I've been having a rough night. Folding a lot including some pretty big hands when the circumstances are clear I'm beat. As a result I think my image is on the nitty side.

V1 seems to be an aware aggressive player not afraid to take stabs at the pot with mediocre holdings.

UTG I raise to 25 with A K two callers

Flop ($75):9 10 Q
I check and both check behind.

Turn ($75): 4
I bet $60

V1 thinks for quite a while and makes it $185 V2 folds

I think for about 30-45 seconds and make it $625 with only about $150 back (this is a spread game with a max $500 bet). A 4 bet over bet like this screams strength and is rare with anything but the nuts. The problem I realized once V1 was tanking is that a thinking player would realize my range here is really only the straight and that I wouldn't ever play any other hand like that. That being said I really thought V1 was stabbing at the pot with a one pair hand and that my straight and pair outs could be good.

After tanking for a bit V1 folded.
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06-01-2017 , 11:22 PM
Broke my 2/4 heater with this one.

V1: MAWG, almost guaranteed to throw out a weak bet if you check to him. Always find him on my left and it's a pain in the ass.

V2: MABG, all-around bad, just does whatever. Triple donked T2cc when I flopped trip aces and drew two clubs for the flush. Really bad at hand reading and determining relative hand strength.

Hero ($545): 20s WG running bad, but getting bailed out with a couple big blind specials. Tilted shorty was shoving blind and had AA when I called with AJ on the button. In for $600

6-handed hero UTG raises to $20 with AQ (so card dead didn't know if it was enough) V1 calls CO, V2 calls SB, BB calls.

Flop ($80): J T 5
Checks to V1 who bets $30. V2 and Hero call

Turn ($170): 9
Hero plans to c/r another small bet from V1, but it checks around

River ($170): 7
V2 checks, Hero bets $135, V1 calls, V2 folds. V1 shows KQo for the straight.

I had straight and flush blockers, and it wasn't how I'd play AsQs/AsKs, but probably all my other AsXs combos. That pot was so damn bloated and I wanted it bad.
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06-01-2017 , 11:36 PM
Got a little stuck last 2/5 session, so tried to bluff off my stack in some 3b pots...

(1)
HJ/Villain (good player) opens to $30 after a limper. Hero in SB raises to $105 with AKo. V calls.
Flop 973r. Hero checks. V $110. Hero x/r to $310 leaving only like $300 behind. V tanks (FML if he ships). V folds.

(2)
Hero raises KQhh to $50 after two limpers in $10 UTG straddled pot. 3bet happy villain in CO raises to $155. Folds to hero. Hero calls.
Flop 8c4h2c. Hero checks. V $170. Hero x/r all-in for ~$675. V snap mucks.
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06-02-2017 , 03:40 AM
It was meant to be a bluff....

2/5

Couple ep habitual limpers
I $40 w/A6o otb, one ep limper calls
Flop AQJr we both check
Turn 4 i call $50
River 4 he checks i $225 to avoid the chop, he tank calls & mucks
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06-03-2017 , 05:07 AM
Trying to lose my stack with red 36o...

Couple limpers. Hero overlimps button with 36o. SB goes $25. MP calls. Hero calls (ok yeah I do this stuff sometimes; confessional time I guess).

Flop ($75): Jc7h3c
SB bets $40. MP calls. Hero calls.

Turn ($195): 4x
SB checks. MP $115. Hero raises to $375. MP tanks for a long time then finally calls

River: Ax
MP checks. Hero ships remaining $475 (I had MP most likely on some sort of big draw, didn't want to lose to 7c6c or something similar). MP snap folds; I probably had the best hand on river.



And this one...
Hero raises 99 to $20. One caller, then BB raises to $80. Hero calls. Other folds.

Flop ($180): AQ5r

BB bets $110. Hero raises to $300, which would leave BB with about $400 behind if he calls. BB tanks for a long time, then folds.
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