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10-24-2019 , 07:11 PM
Two hands, one in each of two back to back sessions...

First hand:

1/3 NL, effective stacks ~500. Hero is OTB, on a downswing, played subpar for a bit after playing well for several hours. Has since tightened up and played better overall, but not sure if it's been noticed. Villain is CO, 30s Asian guy, very aggressive but not bad. OTTH...

Straddled pot, several callers to hero OTB with TT (suits irrelevant), hero raises to $30. Early limper and villain call $25 approx $90 in pot.

Flop: A3T rainbow. Checked to hero, hero bets $40. EP folds, villain c/r to $100. Hero?? (Don't know whether to post my line and thinking or leave it as is. Obviously we're just seeing dollar signs and hoping stacks get in one way or another...


2nd Hand:

2/5 effective stacks $800. Hero straddles to $10. 3 callers to Villain in SB, older guy who likes to limp/call and call CB on flops light...he makes it $35. Hero makes it $100, SB calls. Flop is 852 rainbow, villain checks. Hero??
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10-24-2019 , 07:26 PM
Hand 1: Villain shouldn't have any draws at all here. If villain is bluffing you want to give him a chance to continue. Your main concern should be not scaring off the unlikely 2 pair or AK. Because you have position on villain flatting is the best choice.

If villain bets into you on turn then shove unless sizing is odd. If villain checks then bet something that sets up a good river shove. $150 looks like a reasonable size.

Hand 2: What does hero have? What sort of range do you put him on for raising out of the SB? For the most part though I would be aiming for $125 here. If you are bluffing and he calls that you need to shut down. If you have value what to do on the turn will vary on the turn card and your read.
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10-24-2019 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by QuadJ
Hand 1: Villain shouldn't have any draws at all here. If villain is bluffing you want to give him a chance to continue. Your main concern should be not scaring off the unlikely 2 pair or AK. Because you have position on villain flatting is the best choice.

If villain bets into you on turn then shove unless sizing is odd. If villain checks then bet something that sets up a good river shove. $150 looks like a reasonable size.

Hand 2: What does hero have? What sort of range do you put him on for raising out of the SB? For the most part though I would be aiming for $125 here. If you are bluffing and he calls that you need to shut down. If you have value what to do on the turn will vary on the turn card and your read.
+1, hope you didn't 3 bet flop in H1.

H2 you have another dry board and this one shouldn't hit V much . I would bet with normal sizing hands that need protection like 99-JJ and suited wheel Ax, 89s, 78s, good flop to check back some big Ax. If he wasn't overcalling flops I'd suggest mixing in some downbets with QQ+ here, maybe still size down a little if he doesn't look interested.
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10-24-2019 , 09:54 PM
H1 is always a call.

H2 knowing our cards would help but you should be value heavy after pre action if v really is a station post. Bet 145 w/JJ+, and any Axs wheel combos with bdfd and usually check the rest.
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10-25-2019 , 06:17 AM
I assume in both hands the villain folded to your bet and raise.

You have to seduce your villain to give you their stack, not try to overpower them. Let them think they have a chance to win the pot.
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10-25-2019 , 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Prone2MonkeyTilt
Two hands, one in each of two back to back sessions...



First hand:



1/3 NL, effective stacks ~500. Hero is OTB, on a downswing, played subpar for a bit after playing well for several hours. Has since tightened up and played better overall, but not sure if it's been noticed. Villain is CO, 30s Asian guy, very aggressive but not bad. OTTH...



Straddled pot, several callers to hero OTB with TT (suits irrelevant), hero raises to $30. Early limper and villain call $25 approx $90 in pot.



Flop: A3T rainbow. Checked to hero, hero bets $40. EP folds, villain c/r to $100. Hero?? (Don't know whether to post my line and thinking or leave it as is. Obviously we're just seeing dollar signs and hoping stacks get in one way or another...





2nd Hand:



2/5 effective stacks $800. Hero straddles to $10. 3 callers to Villain in SB, older guy who likes to limp/call and call CB on flops light...he makes it $35. Hero makes it $100, SB calls. Flop is 852 rainbow, villain checks. Hero??


Hand 1: OTF I’m betting exactly 1/2pot. It seens to me you made a little less than that and I think you can miss some value there. The calling range is the same to 40 and 1/2pot, so...
AP I’m just calling. We are IP and want V to continue. With a call we would have ~370$ stack on a pot of ~290$. If V check we can make it 1/3 (100$) OTT and go flr stacks OTR.

Hand 2: I dont know your hand, lol.
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10-25-2019 , 07:58 AM
Please just don’t reraise in hand 1


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10-25-2019 , 10:50 AM
1/3 HH:

This deep, I'm not really looking to attempt to setup an SPR where I can auto stackoff with one pair since (a) it will have to be a huge raise and (b) the bigger raise that is called the more I might start running into overpairs. I might do a more "normalish" raise, or even a very small one, almost just to juice the pot in position for when I hit my set or those rare favourable flops (even though I'm fully expecting to go very multiway with a non-large raise size). I also don't think overlimping here is horrible.

SPR is 5 and board is fairly drawless other than some gutshots. We can get stacks in with 3 small ~1/2 PSBs. So I'm cool with our flop sizing.

I'd just flat the raise. At this point it will be trivial to get in stacks in position, plus there are no scare cards to kill the action, so flatting prevents hero folds as well as encourages him to keep bluffing if he has air.

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10-31-2019 , 07:47 AM
Sorry guys was very tired when I posted this. 2nd hand I had 88 and villain checks.

First hand I flat, planning to shove overtop of a bet on any turn. Turn was something like 6 (puts two s out there, no gutter got there...).
Villain checks, hero is dumbfounded...

I flat the flop here 100% of the time like some of you mentioned. I also expect to be bet into (very close to, apparently ��) 100% of the time.
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10-31-2019 , 08:53 AM
Hand 1: When villain raises flop and then checks turn he has mostly given up. He likely has a weak AX or was on a total bluff. The alternative is that he is trying to trap with with a big hand, AT/33 or remotely A6/66 that was bluffing flop and got there. Either way there is no reason not to bet. If he has given up there is probably no money to make and you don't want to give a free card to the occasional gut shot draw.

Hand 2: With top set on such a dry board you could check occasionally but I would still bet 3/4 of the time. You should be c-betting your air here a lot after 3 betting preflop so you should also be betting your value. This is a combination of balance, value and consistency. Plus you know villain likes to float flop. If the turn card is a brick this is a good situation for a bet/check/bet line.
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11-04-2019 , 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by QuadJ
Hand 1: When villain raises flop and then checks turn he has mostly given up. He likely has a weak AX or was on a total bluff. The alternative is that he is trying to trap with with a big hand, AT/33 or remotely A6/66 that was bluffing flop and got there. Either way there is no reason not to bet. If he has given up there is probably no money to make and you don't want to give a free card to the occasional gut shot draw.

Hand 2: With top set on such a dry board you could check occasionally but I would still bet 3/4 of the time. You should be c-betting your air here a lot after 3 betting preflop so you should also be betting your value. This is a combination of balance, value and consistency. Plus you know villain likes to float flop. If the turn card is a brick this is a good situation for a bet/check/bet line.
Hand 1: I suppose he was making a move and gave up, as he folded to a 1/2 pot bet. Disappointing to get c/r on the flop holding basically the nuts and then not get bet into on the turn, but such is life.

Hand 2: I bet $100 and villain insta-mucked. Possibly the only hand he didn't float me on the flop the entire session. Disappointing. In general I prefer to bet my sets rather than slow play. On this board I can justify a check, but knowing villain's tendencies I think we bet and get paid on at least our flop bet here more often than not.
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11-04-2019 , 11:06 PM
unless you have a high 3bet% i wouldnt 3bet 88 here as even when you flop top set and your hands very disguised your less likely to get paid off if they are assuming your 3bets AA/KK. so your only getting paid when they outflop big overpairs and if that happens your still getting paid off with the 35$ flat and also allows you to have a much wider range in that situation. if 3betting 88 here i would go 135$ to target folds 65$ more is inviting a call.
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