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07-28-2015 , 02:36 PM
The casino I'm at right now is at least 300 miles away from the nearest poker room. There is a big tournament series going on right now, and the tables are full of a wide mix of players. I was playing 1/2 NL at a electronic PokerPro table and the following hand came up. I think I may have overplayed it.

I had a pretty good rush of cards early on and won quite a few small/medium pots. I connected with a few flops and had been c-betting a ton and getting folds when I missed. The table probably sees me as pretty aggro but competent. I have shown down very few hands but haven't shown any trash at all. I'm far and away the most aggressive player at the table. I've sat about 4 or 5 orbits. I have $350.

V seems to be very loose passive. He's a white man of about 65 or so. He has about $325 and will limp/call what seems to be a pretty wide range. He seems like a pretty new player and doesn't strike me as very good at all. He's immediately on my right.

2 limpers and I raised it to $12 OTB with 76. I have been getting away with raising limpers and c-betting good flops when I get a caller or two and I didn't want to change what was working. One of the blinds tagged along and V called.

Pot: $37
8 5 6

BB checks, V leads for $10.

Hero raises to $35. BB folds and V calls pretty quickly.

Pot: $107
(8 5 6) 6

V leads again for $20 (Lol at his sizing) and Hero raises to $95. I read him as very weak at this point. I was surprised when he called the raise just as quickly, but he did and I started to question my read a little.

Pot: $297
(8 5 6 6) 3

Villian leads AGAIN for $25.

Hero?

I still thought he was weak.
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07-28-2015 , 02:41 PM
call and wait for him to table his hand and get ready to muck.
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07-28-2015 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Playbig2000
call and wait for him to table his hand and get ready to muck.

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07-28-2015 , 02:49 PM
Callng sounds right to me. You have to be good 1/11 times. He could have lots of hands that beat you. Small chance he has a big PP hoping you bluffed on a missed board.
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07-28-2015 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Playbig2000
call and wait for him to table his hand and be ready to hear "i put you on AK"
FYP

i think you'll see a lot of 8x here
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07-28-2015 , 03:22 PM
+1 to Johnny's post.
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07-28-2015 , 03:26 PM
If he has a lot of 8's in his range (which I agree with) then why aren't we shoving the river? Are you saying that he's bad enough to call the turn raise with a naked 8 but good enough to get away from it on the river?
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07-28-2015 , 03:26 PM
he's never snap calling a $95 raise with 8x.
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07-28-2015 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny_on_the_spot
FYP

i think you'll see a lot of 8x here
Agreed. But do you call or raise?
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07-28-2015 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Playbig2000
he's never snap calling a $95 raise with 8x.
def see your point. not impossible though.


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Originally Posted by dean327
Agreed. But do you call or raise?
we already raised turn, if he does put us on AK there, once we raise the river i'm not sure he would still think that is our hand and then he may fold worse/call better. anything is possible, but in game i probably just call
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07-28-2015 , 03:37 PM
It would be fun to min-raise him on the river. I'll bet he calls that with his entire range -- except a busted flush draw. He's only raising with better.
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07-28-2015 , 03:44 PM
Grunch.

Raise river to maybe $150. His line is incredibly weak and his river bet is so small that you should pretty much treat it as if he checked. If he checked, would you really be checking behind with trip 6s?

The pot is like $325 after he bets river, so I raise to like $150 hoping that like A8, 98, 87, 99, etc. calls. His range is really weak here, usually 3 blocking bets is a weak made hand or a draw if it's not on the river. I don't think you can go for a huge pot sized river bet, but you can't let him get away with a really cheap showdown. Your hand is like always best here, and he can call with worse. If he did end up using this line to trap you and he actually has a straight or better, take notes. But I am not flatting this river.
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07-28-2015 , 04:22 PM
V only has $158 behind on river. We have to shove if we are going to bet.
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07-28-2015 , 04:51 PM
If this is on the electronic tables, I'm going AI and expect to be called by worse >90% of the time. V's range here is so wide that if he happens to show up with something that beats you, its a unicorn. QQ+ is like 33% of his range (and AA is probably 90% of that).

Button-clicking, FTW!

BTW... your flop raise sizing is bad, and your turn raise sizing isn't much better.

Raise to $75 OTF. Pair+OESD is good enough that you want to put lots of $$$ in the pot.

As played, raise to $150 OTT. You just picked up even more equity.
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07-28-2015 , 06:51 PM
Seems like we're ahead of 98,87,75,A8 and behind flopped straights, better trips, boats. Only choices are jam or call. Jamming may be too thin because bad passive Villains will block with a straight and still call the raises. And they MIGHT let hands like 98, 87 go on the river. Could be results oriented thinking because OP said he may have overplayed this hand. Comes down to the read, but seems like just a call.
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07-29-2015 , 01:13 AM
raise river small to like $85 if u dont think he calls a shove. this is so often 8x. flatting is pretty bad and losing value
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07-29-2015 , 01:51 AM
I really think his calling range OTR here is pretty inelastic, shove, AINEC.
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07-29-2015 , 01:36 PM
I shoved and he snapped again.

Q-8 off. He said gh and walked away.
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