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08-07-2019 , 10:19 PM
TLDR: $1-$2, 5h6h in BB, UTG blind-raises to $40, 5 callers. Hero.....? Flop 3h5c7s. SB bets $100, Hero......?

Game is $1-2 blinds, but it’s spread limit, where the maximum raise is just $100 over the previous bet.

Hero is mid-30s, rocking the “fat married white guy with a mortgage and kids” look so probably pegged as a nit. Stack is $300.

Villain has been drinking and is having a helluva time. He’s frequently made huge preflop raises without looking at his hand. Stack is like $500. He’s sitting to my left.

Sitting to my right is Table Captain. He’s a young white guy listening to an iPod. He has a stack of over $1,000 and can do those flashy chip-shuffling tricks.

THE HAND:

I’m in the Big Blind. Maniac Villain announces before the cards are dealt “I’m raising to $40” and sure enough he raises to $40. 5 other people call, including the Table Captain in the Small Blind. I look down and see 56

Question 1: Is this a mandatory call or a mandatory fold?

I’ll spoil it for you and tell you I called, and while I care to hear what you say, my bigger decision point comes next:

FLOP: 753

Pair, gutter, backdoor flush.

And of course the Small Blind immediately leads out with a maximum bet of $100 into the $280 flop.

Question 2: Do I Raise, Call, or Fold?

Last edited by davomalvolio; 08-07-2019 at 10:46 PM. Reason: Edited for length; Added a TLDR
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08-07-2019 , 10:25 PM
Fold pre, fold flop
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08-07-2019 , 10:30 PM
geezus these convoluted posts
just tell us the action in the hand
tldr call
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08-07-2019 , 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ionutd
geezus these convoluted posts
just tell us the action in the hand
tldr call
You’re right, I cut it down. I was stuck with a screaming newborn and had nothing better to do that go nuts on detail, lol.
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08-07-2019 , 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by davomalvolio
You’re right, I cut it down. I was stuck with a screaming newborn and had nothing better to do that go nuts on detail, lol.
sorry, i'ts just impossible to read in between 4 tables of fast fold poker
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08-08-2019 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ionutd
sorry, i'ts just impossible to read in between 4 tables of fast fold poker
I feel ya!!!

Anyway, yeah, I called like an idiot (is there *any* hand I should just *call* with in this spot?):

7-handed. Flop 357 (pot $280)

SB bets $100, action on Hero with 56 and 5 guys still to act after him (and one of them hasn’t seen his hand). I...?
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08-08-2019 , 04:19 PM
Fold pre.

Reason, when we call we end up in this kind of situation, where we sort of hit and it would be a nice place to be HU in position deepstacked against a guy with a fold button. But we're actually super shallow against a bunch of guys and our hand probably isn't good against a whiz kid's donking range so now what do we do?

I fold now.
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08-08-2019 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by davomalvolio
I feel ya!!!

Anyway, yeah, I called like an idiot (is there *any* hand I should just *call* with in this spot?):

7-handed. Flop 357 (pot $280)

SB bets $100, action on Hero with 56 and 5 guys still to act after him (and one of them hasn’t seen his hand). I...?
I dont think you should have a calling range preflop. Blind raises is the new big blind, so you are playing 10bbs deep poker. 140$ or fold pre. With 56s I fold
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08-09-2019 , 11:30 AM
This has been a good reminder that it’s better to be lucky than good.

WHAT HAPPENED NEXT: I did in fact raise Whiz Kid to $200, assuming that though I was behind I had sufficient odds against any hands except sets. I expected it would fold back to Whiz Kid and we’d see if I could outdraw his pocket tens one time.

But instead....The Drunk Maniac—who still hasn’t seen his hand!!!!—called the $200 cold. And....one of the middle position players called off his final $80.....and then a Late Position guy called off his final $170 too!!!

Whiz Kid called. Turn is a 9s. Pot is like $1120 now? Whiz Kid checks. I bet my final $60. Maniac calls it. Whiz Kid calls it.

River: 4

Easy game. (Whiz Kid had JT, Maniac didn’t show, and one of the Late Position guys had a QQ, naturally.)

Sorry to brag. It’s more...I felt like I HAD made big mistakes in the hand. And now I’m convinced that’s true!
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08-09-2019 , 11:38 AM
Yeah, you got lucky. That’s poker. We all make poor choices and we learn from them.

Food pre, fold flop.
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08-10-2019 , 10:40 AM
With $280 in the pot and $260 in your stack, I think you gotta go with it on the flop. Glad that one of your outs came in.

Preflop was way too high a price to pay. The maniac raising blind isn't the only villain...
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