Is shoving even a bluff?

I think A-high is more likely to call than any over pocket pair is to fold.

I had stacks off by a bit. Used to doing everything in bb’s now and thought we were close to a PSB left. Was seeing it as a merge-y sort of spot. See my post after playbig corrected my math.
I agree with what you’re saying, but I like x/c better AP with these stack sizes if V is capable of bluffing AK/AQ, but I think he often has 99/JJ here and checks behind his whole range OTR.

Little bit late to the party. I am not sure if we really need to develope a 4 bet bluffing range at 2/5. As Venice pointed out, villain needs to be 3 betting us a ton here for us to look into adjustments like light 4 bets.

I can see this being an adjustment we have to make at very few tables though, if we play a **** ton of hours with a good solid reg or two and they are 3 betting us alot basically forcing us to readjust unless we want to be exploited.

If so be the case, i think having an ace blocker and being suited is good arguments for being a 4 bet light candidate- even though i would prefer a suited wheel ace like A2s or A5s.

Developing a 4-bet bluffing range vs “good regs” in 2020 is absolutely vital, regardless of where you play— but it doesn’t have to/ shouldn’t be this wide.

The problem with using A6s as a 4-bet bluff here, is that it’s implied that you’d also do this with A2s-A5s. That’s because those hands are preferable due to the wheel potential.

If you’re also using suited connectors and hands like A10o/AJo and KJo/KQo it can get out of hand quickly.

So just have good awareness of that and resist the urge to get OOL when you don’t have one of your designated combos— even in a good spot.

Against a lot of villains, no 4-bet bluffs are fine I guess. But you’re definitely leaving money on the table vs regs if you don’t. Punish them for making tight folds vs your 4-bets.

Also, you increase your profitability in this part of the game tree with your good hands because regs will start continuing wider. It has nothing to do with spew/FPS if you approach it correctly and deviate hand to hand.

Also, V does not have to be 3-betting us a ton for us to 4-bet bluff profitably. V has to 3-betting us a ton for us to be printing with our 4-bets, but they are inherently profitably if done at the correct frequencies. This is too loose though, yeah.

late to the party
if we have anything but a spewy image then I agree with the 4-bet
and the check flop
but if we have a tight image and V has a fold button I'm jamming over his flop bet
or calling flop bet and jamming turn
like you said he's range aware and with a tight image and our 4-bet then jam
he has to give us credit for top of our range.

BUT you told us what you think of V my play is dependent on what V thinks of us