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05-11-2017 , 03:34 PM
I'm looking for some help with squeezing out of the blinds and also some ideas to go along with the sizing.

The last game I played in was super passive where there was a lot of limping, hardly any 3 betting, and nobody being aggressive. I was easily the most aggressive person at the table.

Now on to my question, when you're playing in a game like this, what kind of range are you squeezing with. I'll give an example of one of my hands, AKs in the small blind, MP opens to $12 gets 2 callers and I make it $40 out of the small blind and everyone folds. Now was that good sizing or was it too big? Of course I am happy to win 19bbs without seeing a flop but if I'm not getting action with my premiums it leads me to believe that the sizing was too big, or that they called that $12 with speculative holdings. I will add in that my image in that game was fairly loose but only in position. Sorry for the huge paragraph for a kind of small topic, but just looking for some insight.

Also if you want to add in a range where the table is more active I would appreciate that as well.

Thanks in advance
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05-11-2017 , 03:39 PM
How deep are stacks?

Generally AKs in the SB facing a $12 raise and 2 callers, I'd bet bigger than $40. $60 would be my default. As you noted, in any event winning $38 with AK in a hand you'd otherwise have to play out of position against a range that is often heavy with pocket pairs is not a bad result at all.
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05-11-2017 , 03:44 PM
each individual scenario is going to differ based off of villain tendencies, stack sizes, hero image etc so it is hard to give a broad answer here - however, in your example, $40 is definitely not too big - if anything that is a tiny 3-bet size after a $12 open and 2 callers, and if villains are going to be opening 6x and then folding to a 3-bet often you can just print $ squeezing them from the blinds until they adjust.
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05-11-2017 , 03:53 PM
Yea I guess it was a broad question but in the typical limp/call an open type game with stacks at 100bb or less. I did start squeezing pretty light once I realized they folded more often than they should've. Would it be easier to give a good squeezing range in the second example where people are actively 3 betting with stacks around the same 100bb?
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05-11-2017 , 04:11 PM
Low stakes games are still really soft, so there's more than one way to win. Flatting all your hands from the blinds is certainly ok. But I would 3b any suited broadway, KQo, AQo+, TT+. You are rarely, if ever going to take it down pre flop in a low stakes game- but it creates a lot of dead money, and they're calling with a dominated range. It's high variance, but you should be over rolled for 1/2 and only concerned with squeezing everything you can out of the game.
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05-11-2017 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by upswinging
Low stakes games are still really soft, so there's more than one way to win. Flatting all your hands from the blinds is certainly ok. But I would 3b any suited broadway, KQo, AQo+, TT+. You are rarely, if ever going to take it down pre flop in a low stakes game- but it creates a lot of dead money, and they're calling with a dominated range. It's high variance, but you should be over rolled for 1/2 and only concerned with squeezing everything you can out of the game.
I'm definitely over rolled for the game and variance isn't an issue for me. I am certainly comfortable with my post-flop game both in and out of position. I like the range that you suggested so I'll be adding that to my style of play
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05-11-2017 , 10:43 PM
Lot of people simply ignore dead money spots and maximizing pre flop equity which is a huge leak.

I'm not going go through everything, and the numbers aren't accurate because it's not accounting for the times you get 4b and call off, the times you 3b/fold, the times everyone folds to you, and the times more than one person calls you. Lol that said, the far far majority of times (guessing 1-2 is similar to 2/5), you'll get 1 caller.

For example: folds around, lp opens $12, two callers, you squeeze with whatever in the ~$50 range. You're going to create $26 dead money with a $50 raise, and the caller usually has a dominated, capped range- where you're generally at a 60/40 or more pre flop equity. Right there that's huge, eyeballing it it's probably close to an $25-30ev spot. That's a humongous amount of free money for a 1/2 game, and all you have to do is squeeze pre.

Now obviously if you suck postflop/ have no clue how to play 3b pots oop, the money you make squeezing pre generally vanishes post due to the mistakes you make. But if you really know what you're doing and can play very well post- then squeezing the majority of the time (assuming it doesn't force out a fish behind you) is free money.
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05-12-2017 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by upswinging
Lot of people simply ignore dead money spots and maximizing pre flop equity which is a huge leak.

I'm not going go through everything, and the numbers aren't accurate because it's not accounting for the times you get 4b and call off, the times you 3b/fold, the times everyone folds to you, and the times more than one person calls you. Lol that said, the far far majority of times (guessing 1-2 is similar to 2/5), you'll get 1 caller.

For example: folds around, lp opens $12, two callers, you squeeze with whatever in the ~$50 range. You're going to create $26 dead money with a $50 raise, and the caller usually has a dominated, capped range- where you're generally at a 60/40 or more pre flop equity. Right there that's huge, eyeballing it it's probably close to an $25-30ev spot. That's a humongous amount of free money for a 1/2 game, and all you have to do is squeeze pre.

Now obviously if you suck postflop/ have no clue how to play 3b pots oop, the money you make squeezing pre generally vanishes post due to the mistakes you make. But if you really know what you're doing and can play very well post- then squeezing the majority of the time (assuming it doesn't force out a fish behind you) is free money.
I appreciate the advice. This was something that I was hoping to get out of the post as well. Will definitely be taking that into account next time I play
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05-12-2017 , 10:26 AM
Depends on the opener's raising range more than anything. If PFR is a bad loose/aggressive grinder who is raising anything remotely connected from the hijack on (and none of the callers are shortstacked) I'd be squeezing a lot of the hands I would have been raising from late position. If PFR is a tight/passive player who is not positionally aware and raising the same 10% range from anywhere then I might just 3bet QQ+/AKo.

As you noticed, getting all folds and winning nearly 20bb in dead money is far from the worst result. It's hard to do much better than that in one hand.
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