1/2 effective 280.

CO (700) has been playing very LAG in the hour I’ve been here. Playing 50% of hands mostly raising. He limp/called 83s and donked out 3 streets on KQ337.

BUT (200) passive fish, seems kinda tight.

SB (1100) passive fish, plays very face up.

Hero (280) has been playing aggressive. I made a thin value bet with AK on the riv and got called by Trips. Besides that I’ve made a couple hero folds and down about 100 in the hour I’ve been playing so far.

CO opens to 7. BUT calls. Sb calls.
Hero BB A5hh reraise to 40. CO calls.
(94) Flop JT3hcd
Hero?

With the action so far preflop I think it makes sense to use some hands to squeeze the money out there so far, and I think aside from using 88+, AQo+, ATs+, I think using A5s as a thin bluff here could be good. Are there better hands to bluff squeeze with here than A5s?

Now on the flop I’m not sure if we should just give it up vs the LAG, or fire a cbet. 55 into 90 seems like a good size but it could just be burning chips, although check/folding here seems a bit weak.
Thoughts?


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I don't like bloating the pot with A5 when we're going to get called OOP by at least one player. I'd like this at lot more if CO was an ABC player and we had the button.

Although A5s is like the poster child for squeezes, I don't like it here, since aside from the initial raiser you also have to contend with two limpers who've already called one raise.

Consequently, unless I thought I could take it down right here, I'm not feeling groovy about the 3-bet.

As played, I'm probably firing 2/3 pot bet--and then shutting down if he doesn't fold right here.

I believe your burning money c-betting here.

We squeezed 5.5x and got heads up. There's going to be very few flops I don't c-bet before I give up. B/f the flop

In general squeezing in 1/2 is a losing play with anything other than JJ+/AQ+

:grunch:

I could go either way on the squeeze but probably lean more towards folding.

As played, I go $55 on the flop. If raised I’m folding, and if called it leaves me with a PSB so I think I’m shoving any turn.

Reasons not to c-bet: (1) It's live 1-2, and nothing in your reads gives any indication that CO knows how to lay a hand down. (2) We are out of position. (3) That flop connects with a fair bit of the opener's range.

Reason to c-bet: Although our hand has a bit of equity (backdoor flush and low and high backdoor straight draws, and a small likelihood that we will be good if we spike an ace) it is not showdownable now. It would be good to try to eke out some fold equity.

If I were feeling optimistic or feisty, I would lead out for 40 or 50, and fold to a raise. If we hit a heart or wheel card on the turn I would bet again, but I would be more cautious if the turn were a non-heart Broadway card.

But in general, I would reserve my not-for-direct-value squeezes for situations where I have a reasonable hope that I will pick up folds. Loose-passive callers don't fill that bill, IMO. And it is much better to be in position than out of it.

Call seems standard getting 4.5:1 and closing the action with the nut suited wheel ace and relative position to PFR.

As played I’d lean x/give up. You’ve got nothing but a couple back door draws. You’re not deep enough to execute a multi street bluff and down betting flop for 40/90 and then overbet shoving turns feels a little spewy especially when you factor in the preflop squeeze.

Not saying the squeeze is correct but if we have it in our bag of tricks, surely cbetting 100% of our range when It gets heads up can’t be wrong. Am I missing something?

My std is just to call here with a suited aces closing the action, though in theory this is probably a great spot to 3b squeeze with this exact hand. I just dont think in practice this is a very +EV spot if at all, id imagine slightly -EV, esp vs player tendencies to just not fold pre and there are two people who have position on us. Plus the passive cold-caller and SB may have a strong hand here at a decent freq like A10s+, AQo+, 88+ so not a great spot and not fold vs 3b or even ship over

Ap seems like an ok spot to cbet $40 and shove good turns. He should have a good amount of 55-99 here, 10x, straight draws and broadway draws he’ll fold at some frequency and he really doesnt have too many raises on this board without a FD there

Two-tone flop i’d snap x/f even with backdoor hearts

squeezing seems good here vs a late position open and 2 callers in between.

i think we need to c-bet here and barrel on turns that give us equity. can x/f to turns that brick as his range is quite strong if hes calling your 3b+flop cbet.

Heads up against this guy prob a small c bet. He probably has enough stuff like 85 suited that will just give up.

If he calls I'm mostly done. He is rarely folding the turn.

Cbet 100% with backdoor Flushdraw vs LAG, if u pick a flushdraw on turn shove all in. check fold without backdoors on flop.

Experience tells me that the above is spot on. If I do squeeze, it's because I think I can get folds the vast majority of the time & I'm making it 5x the open + 1 for every caller. So $50. That will look like TT/JJ etc., to some, or BS to others. Knowing your Vs is paramount here because there are 3 Vs & 2 have position on you.

Sometimes, you just have to say, "Well shytt, that flop blows!"

The opener flatted the !3 with 2 left to act. the JT otf hits so many 2-broadway card hands, along with 98s, that IMO it's just about the worst flop you could c-bet.

IMO it's going to be rare that at least one of the 3 Vs didn't hit that flop well enough to continue.

Ask yourself this: If the flop also had 2 of a suit [that wasn't yours] would it be an easy check/fold? That's the only thing missing to make it a snap check/fold, right?

It would be a much easier c/f without the backdoor draws IMO. If the flop was JT3 with no hearts I’d quickly check fold.

I don’t think squeezing and betting flop are bad. They’re both just meh, whatever. I could go either way on them. I probably bet the flop and only shove turns if another heart shows up. Or if villain is the type to call light with a wide range on the flop and folds a lot of turns.

If you give up on this flop you're giving up way too often in a 3b pot and should just not 3b in the first place.

C-bets are profitable for a reason. We are able to merge some of our weaker hands with our stronger hands because we rep a stronger range. It's hard to hit a flop.

Yes adding a two-tone does change a lot of things. It adds 10+ combos of suited hands that are never folding

I feel it's a easy check/fold here.

We are OOP
Pot's bloated
SPR 2~
We 3betted preflop to pick up the pot there and then, we failed to

Why would we want to cbet into 2 other players IP?

Well, there's BD GUTSHOTS, but are pretty much useless if it's not suited hearts. And there's only like, 4 suited hearts gutshot out there. An ace hitting the TURN would be helpful, though not much. An Ace OTT although gives us a TP, but it gives KQ a straight, AJ-AT,A3s TWOPAIRS, and other BD nut flush draws(not hearts) that have a better kicker than us, better TP and kickers that out kick us. And there's even more that i didn't list out that are offsuits etc. And really, if we bet flop, our hope is to get a good flush draw(with gutshot), hope that V checks back TURN and we hit our FLUSH OTR. That's how I feel. Might be wrong, please do correct me

Not my favourite flop and situation to cbet.

I understand why you 3betted preflop, but against multiple Vs', especially in 1/2, is not advisable.

we're heads up. agree with x/f if multiway