Need a bit of help here,

Ok, V In the hand is a 50 yr old middle eastern guy who has been blazing hot since he sat down an hour ago. Hasn't won any huge pots but has won every small / medium pot he's played and ran a stack from $300 to about $750. He's had it on every showdown. V is on my direct left. I have $500 to start the hand an a pretty snug Image.

V puts a button straddle on and I pick up AKcc in the CO. 2 limpers and I make it $25 to go. V hesitates for a second before calling the looks at me and says ' I have a pocket pair. You're ahead. Good luck'. 2 others call as well. $100 in there

Flop: Ah7c7d.

2 checks to me and I cbet to $75. V calls in position, the others fold. $250 in the pot and I have $400 behind and now I'd really like to get to showdown as quickly and and cheaply as possible agaisnt this V.

Turn: 9c.

I check, V bets $75.

What do you do here?

Id start by betting smaller or checking the flop since board is bone dry and you can probably only get two streets, maybe one. What would you do with TT-KK on this flop?

As played pot is already big so I guess we're stacking off now. Prob minraise turn and shove River. If he's got 7x you're losing a bunch anyway.

No way I'm folding. You're only worried about 5 outs, AA/77/99. I don't know what worse will call a raise, so I'd probably call. You have flush outs in case he played 76s or 87s. Stick with the plan to get to a showdown. Raising is better than folding.

His sizing seems like a probe with JJ-. Think it is more optimal to raise (vs. call) so we can set-up a river lead (shove). Folding is out.

With the straddle and a single raise to $25 pre getting called by 3 people, you're not really playing 1/2 250bb deep, you're playing 2/5 100bb deep. Don't think you can pot control here.

I'd have bet turn and shoved river. Once V bets, not much you're ahead of calls a raise, so I'd call turn and lead river.

Bet flop, bet turn, bet riv, 1/3-half pot max all the way through. Ck flop might allow you to get 2 streets in, but I think A2s+ is a huge part of his range once he calls flop and he could easily call down 3 streets with those hands and 1-2 streets with PP if you size it right

AP, flop bet is sized terribly... On turn, I guess just call and suck/block bet riv, but ck turn is just such a mess once you bet flop. You really can't just ck riv, nor can you bet-c and expect to be good without a club.

I think from V's perspective you've missed flop, stabbed a c-bet and given up OTT. He may or may not have an PP... certainly that could be consistent with his weak bet here. It's a question of raise/call.

But I'm not sure how were getting him to put more $ in pot. Maybe call repping a FD, then check/call river.

I'm assuming this is $1/$2 with a $5 straddle? If that's the case, then effective stacks are only around 100 BBs. I'd probably raise to $30 over 2 limpers (4x straddle + 1x for each limper).

Flop bet looks a bit too large, on such a dry flop, I'm generally c-betting just over half pot ($60 looks good here). Not sure why you're scared when V calls your flop bet, his range is mostly Ax hands that you're way ahead of, and very rarely 7x. Given SPR of under 5 going to the flop, your plan should be to bet-bet-shove and get max value. If you bet $60 into $100 on the flop and $140 into $220 on the turn, you'll be left with a $275 shove into a $500 pot on the river. That's the line that I'd be taking here. Since you bet slightly more on the flop, you can now bet $150 into $250 on the turn and be left with $250 into $550 (less than half pot shove) on the river. You should never be slowing down at any point until and unless V raises you.

As played, V's small turn bet puts you in an awkward spot, since a raise now might fold out the hands that you were targeting with a bet-bet-bet line. I like wj94's line of min-raise turn and shove river. He'll have a hard time folding to the turn min-raise getting such a good price, then you'll be left with the same less than half pot river shove ($250 into $550).

Thanks for the sizing advice. This makes sense

No real reason to check here assuming he is loose and likes to call a lot. What 9 gives him 99 full Kay?

What are his turn tendencies like as well as his FCR in this spot?
Like if he calls the flop with any pair say 88+ and then bet's all of those for thin value OTT when xed to it would be a good spot to x-call as opposed to double barrel only if u knew villain would fold some of those hands to a turn barrel. You aren't inducing any bluffs by checking here, don't even think he has any bluffs for u to induce.

2 street hand flop and turn then re-evaluate rivers in most cases.

Why would we ever x-raise in this spot OTT think about it.

Because people rarely fold to minraises no matter what they have.

True. But still it looks really strong.

I mean A LOT of live players just love to call esp vs. small sizings in which "im getting pot odds" and then decide okay i'll just call here and see a river and go from there... it's really bad planning because they'll never get to realize their equity (SD equity) once we shove the river with a PSB left.

I don't think he will call 100% when we shove rivers, but most likely a turn min-raise. I don't think we should execute this line vs. a good villain that being said.

bet bet bet for sure. Obviously dont ever listen to what people say about their hands, but we know he's not peeling with 22+ on an A77 flop. My guess is he has Ax type hands and was trying to underrep them preflop so that when he hits a board like this he thinks he's good. Remember, he called a preflop raise that is larger than when he's used to, which should tighten his range up a bit, 22+ and Axs+. Now that he's called the flop we can narrow his range to TP I'd say. I imagine his $75 turn bet is for value, if we call he could easily put us on worse and valuetown himself. I'd just go with that line given how we "gave up" on the turn, we need to keep that image alive for him. If he's a complete mongoloid that cant fold any ace then go ahead and raise.

Bet $33 on the flop
Bet $120 on turn.
Shove River.

why do you want to get to showdown cheaply? you're so far ahead of his range here. of course a small % of the time he will have you beat with 7x or 99 but that doesnt matter, you want to to be taking him to value-city when he has Ax hands which are almost never folding (especially this type of villain, imo). bet flop (i think sizing 75 is good as you're targetting Ax hands which wont fold regardless of larger sizing), bet 130-150 on turn, and shove river.

as played, i like the min x/r turn and shove river line the best

I think I wanted to get to showdown for cheap because I'm uncomfortable playing deep. 100-150bb is my comfort zone. In this hand I definitely had some MUTBS.

I appreciate all the advice and what was said makes sense. I ended up folding to the $75 bet. No doubt a losing play over the long run.

Guy showed 77.

Grunch

I honestly don't know what to make of the preflop commentary but I'm going to strongly discount aces once we hit the flop. We gotta jam the turn though. We're ahead or chopping way too often to even contemplate anything else. I highly doubt he shows up with a 7 here either. Pretty gross in the sense that when you range him out you're probably only slightly ahead, but I like this spot to get it in.

bet 135 turn. check river for pot control

Yeah, not a great fold, but at least you saved money with a mistake, rather than losing money.

Also, think you're thinking about this hand wrong. With the straddle and the fact that you opened to $25 and got called by 3 players, you really are playing 100 bb deep here. It's not always the case that a straddle turns a 1/2 game into a 2/5 game, but if people are calling a raise to $25 then raise sizing and SPRs are the exact same as I you were playing 2/5

really? the V has the perspective that hero missed the flop after he bets 75 into 100 into 3 opponents? just ridiculous...

not sure about that that. after previous action, he´s repping a better hand than AK with this bet.

folding as played is whatever, you did butcher the hand though on several spots imo, pre is fine/maybe little too small, flop bet is way too big, and turn is an easy vbet, and not a check.

betting flop that big to c/f turn on a A77r board is just spewing money away.

AP, x-call turn, x-fold river if he bets again.

Lol, that's just me cause im a nit i don't like to x-raise turns and no one really over-plays an Ax hand OTR like this.

Semi-grunch but saw results:

When people (especially older people) tell you what they have at the start of the hand they usually aren't lying. Turn is a v bet in general, just so happened he had what he had. Was your plan to c/give up or did you see something like a live tell? Otherwise its really pretty bad to bomb flop fold turn.

In the moment, just from the way he hesitated and the little speech he gave preflop before calling $25. I was actually thinking it was an oddly played AA. Like I said. Not super comfortable deep and had some MUTBS going on.

I made a scared money fold and was just lucky to be right.