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01-18-2019 , 07:41 PM

FusilliJerry

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7 handed
1k eff at 5/5

Recently Tilted V1 has opened 50% of hands in last few orbits and cbets 100%
Spewy Reg v2 - plays too many hands, but will bluff frequently with air

V1 opens 25 utg
V2 calls utg1
Hero btn AcQs 110
V1 snap folds, v2 hems and haws and calls; HU
Flop QT3r (250)
V2 checks, Hero 125, V2 XR to 415
Hero?

Obviously, playing optimally, this would be a call with so many draws. But are we prepared to call off turn brick jams? We don't block KJ or J9, so should this be a call with AQ? Or should we just lay this down OTF b/c LOL LLSNL?

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01-18-2019 , 08:39 PM

ChrisV

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Annoying spot. I don't think I'm going to fold this at any point though. It's just too difficult to range him and our hand is too strong. I doubt he has TT in view of the hemming and hawing preflop. If he has 33 and binked Q3x he gets to stack us. Not worried about any other hands really. If he has QTs he'll also have a bunch of random bluffs.

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01-18-2019 , 08:45 PM

KID777777

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He's repping pretty thin here, basically 33 and QTs assuming he 3b TT. Also given dry board some of these hands will slowplay flop
If you've seen him make this play with air in a 3b pot, call flop and call turn jam

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01-18-2019 , 09:32 PM

setintostraight

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If you didn't want to play for stacks, call pre and play a smaller pot in position to get paid off by AJ/KQ and worse.'

Alternatively just fold. How many pure air bluffs have you seen from him to make that read?

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01-18-2019 , 10:06 PM

wait

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Easiest stick it in his eye ever

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01-18-2019 , 10:44 PM

FusilliJerry

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Spoiler:

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01-18-2019 , 11:03 PM

alay9

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Easy call. You said he’s wide and your perceived range is wide too w a clear squeeze spot and c bet. Note: I’d include crafty KK here and AA (unlikely) given that original raiser folded.

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01-19-2019 , 12:31 AM

twitcherroo

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I actually call and then call his jam on the turn.

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01-19-2019 , 03:49 AM

DooDooPoker

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Call flop/call turn. You flopped gin and you said this guy is spewy. This is a dream situation

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01-19-2019 , 04:55 AM

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ChrisV

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There's no goddamn way he had KK here lol, come on man. Your contention is that a guy who was "recently tilted, has opened 50% of hands in last few orbits" raised UTG and this guy flatted KK.

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01-19-2019 , 05:29 AM

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wait

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Originally Posted by ChrisV

There's no goddamn way he had KK here lol, come on man. Your contention is that a guy who was "recently tilted, has opened 50% of hands in last few orbits" raised UTG and this guy flatted KK.

And 7 handed. This is never a fold on the flop. Can call/call or just shove who cares.

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01-19-2019 , 05:38 AM

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Minatorr

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Grunch.

Pre is std.

Flop i cbet smaller or i check

Ap i shove, he’s not going to continue bluffing ott when you flat

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01-19-2019 , 05:47 AM

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DooDooPoker

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Originally Posted by Minatorr

Grunch.

Pre is std.

Flop i cbet smaller or i check

Ap i shove, he’s not going to continue bluffing ott when you flat

Are you the villain? If not, you better be clairvoyant because otherwise there is no way of knowing this. Your thought process also leaves our calling range weak, what do you do with KJs?

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01-19-2019 , 05:52 AM

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Minatorr

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

Are you the villain? If not, you better be clairvoyant because otherwise there is no way of knowing this. Your thought process also leaves our calling range weak, what do you do with KJs?

No, I’m not but it’s a reasonable assumption. He’d have to have stone balls to rip in J high or K high on a blank here for $1000. Even online players are hardly that ballsy to pull off even 150-200bb bluffs, let alone $1000. If you have games where people routinely airball with 200bb+ or $500-1000 in a 1/3 or 2/5 game you play in extremely special games

Im fairly gto based but against a spewy reg who I assume wont continue blasting off with J high or K high ott, and will call off with an OESD but fold to our shove ott (all 3 reasonable assumptions imo), I dont care what my range looks like. But my calling range would QQ/1010/AKs bdfd

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01-19-2019 , 06:15 AM

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DooDooPoker

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Getting AQo all in vs KJ isn’t a win vs this villain. We’re like 57% or something vs that hand. I’d rather keep all his bluffs in his range and see a turn. There should be some non zero percent he ships turn with hands as weak as Tx/AJ. If he’s spewy then he can ship KQ/QJ here as well. Those hands might get scared off by a flop ship and find a fold.

To be fair, as long as we don’t fold we will be printing vs this guy. I think calling is higher EV but it’s hard to prove one over the other without villain tendencies. Just don’t fold

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01-19-2019 , 11:54 AM

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mdelore

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Flop check is pretty sweet, let him blast off with god knows what on turn and river. People like this can't compute the idea of checking back with TPTK+

AP I think a shove flop is better than a call, if he has a draw I want him married to it. I don't want him to see a brick and see he has no fold equity. Folding TPTK to a spewtard in a squeezed pot is just not in my game plan. If you bink it on me in a squeezed pot gg sir.

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01-19-2019 , 06:55 PM

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monikrazy

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Vs spewy reg it is standard to call and stack off on most turns, maybe not a k as that is the worst card for hero

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01-19-2019 , 08:27 PM

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aggie

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I'm pretty sure GTO is to call so you need a read to justify folding here. I agree the live exploit is to fold because they usually have it here, but not against a guy with this read:

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Originally Posted by FusilliJerry

Spewy Reg v2 - plays too many hands, but will bluff frequently with air

If he's bluffing frequently with air, the answer should be obvious. Call/Call

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