This is a hand which I think I likely misplayed. Game is deep $1/3 and late at night, average stack is around $1k. I'm effective stack with $1.2k.

Main V is a LAG (covers me). He plays way too many hands preflop but is positionally aware (playing most of his buttons, rarely UTG/blinds). Decent postflop skills with the exception of occasionally making too thin of calls/raises.

Preflop: folds to V in the HJ who opens to $20 (his standard) and hero looks down at AcKs in CO. This seems like an obvious 3-bet and I raise it up to $80. He calls relatively quickly.

Flop ($160): 7c7d5c

V checks, hero?

I decide to check it back. I can easily be ahead here and I doubt V is ever folding a pair on a paired board. Should I be betting to deny equity/prepare to barrel?

Turn ($160): 2c

V bets $120, hero?

I turn the NFD, but V's range is quite wide here. After I check flop, I expect him to bet pairs+ and occasionally stab with Kc hands.

I raise to $450 and V pretty quickly calls.

River ($1060): 3c

V thinks and checks. Hero?

Obviously I rivered the nut flush, but after the turn call I expect him to have at least a flush. Should I go for value against a K-high flush or check back?

About 700 back yeah, i snap rip river
You may fold his pair+club combos otr, but your line is very polarised repping either air or a flush here so I'd expect some hero calls for sure

I'm tired so this is a crappy post but your line is awful and shouldn't be used ever. Pre needs to be bigger being deeper. Flop should be a bet for sake of range and keeping advantage and free cards etc. Turn is spew as you should never have a 3b pre/check flop/raise turn line with value here(maybe 55 only? but not great pre) River b/f something he can crying call like 225. Doubt it will induce a bluff anywhere near often enough to worry.

I agree that I don't love my line, but does it help that I'd probably also take it with AKcc?

Preflop 4x is already a very healthy 3-bet size IP. Can't just go insane because we're deep.

IMO b/f is totally out of question. Given effective stacks, once I bet I have to call off any raise.

not sure why you wouldnt cbet AKcc

seems excessively strong to raise it on the turn cause youre targeting what exactly? worse flushes and 7x? meh

if some live douche villain raises you on the river after you raise the turn big and bet again on a 4 flush board thats paired you prolly arent good.

Harsh critique!
To me pf size is perfect.
Flop should be cbet.
Turn raise is unnecessary. This active LAG may just be bluffing atc because you checked flop.
River requires a bet. As played 250 or 700 both seem alright.

*If you had just called turn, I would raise smallish on river (or bet largish if checked to). I dont think he has to have at least a flush. Few combos actually beat you and this seems like a spot where you might get called down light.

Bet like 45 with your entire range on the flop.

AP turn is a disaster. You can still have the best hand. Why do you wanna fold him off hands like KcQ? You have it smashed and can maybe hero the river.

I’d probably ship it on river. Just not enough boats in his range to worry about it.


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I would ‘same bet’ the river - $450. Obviously a weird sizing but I find most V’s read same bet as weak. I like the sizing less against a thinking V but I’ve had a lot of success with it. Also more effective if H has fish image to V’s which I often do.

Seems like the perfect situation to do what the cool kids do and downbet flop/bomb turn

You explained your thinking for every decision point in the hand except for why you raised the turn...what exactly were you trying to accomplish? Seems like a pretty clear call to me, ranges are still wide and AK could very well be the best hand

results... i'm a results based player. hope he turns over 77. That would be well played if he had live reads on you.

agree with others, i don't see reason for turn raise. called by what worse?

Check flop vs a lag.

Turn raise just doesn't make much sense. If V's range is wide you have the best hand sometimes and the best draw always with the Ac. Especially if he's betting some dominated Ax or KQ KJ type stuff you definitely don't need to blow him off that with a raise.

When he calls the raise OTT I really don't think he is just peeling with KcX much at all. That's pretty donk status, even a donk would be uncomfortable taking this line imo. He's got more weight to full house, 7x, TT-QQ with a club. I'd target the non-fh part of his range with a smallish river bet to get a crying call.

I agree that the turn raise doesn't make sense.

At the time, I was hoping to fold out any pairs he had without a club but it's probably not a very credible line and I already have plenty of equity + SDV.

Does a river bet get called by worse often enough to balance out the additional losses to full houses?

If you lay V 3:1 or something on the river than probably it does get called often enough.

Results:

Villain standard live idiot in full trap more

No, that makes it worse. You should always be cbetting AKcc on this board. Vs a strong dangerous player I like the check back with AKo here especially with the backdoor equity. We really want to keep the pot small and manageable while possibly inducing villain to stab at this pot. Turn raise is terrible. As played, river shove is fine especially if you have a full of crap image.

I agree with Chrissy, except I don’t know why pre should be bigger. I haven’t seen theoretical justification for larger sizings when deep. $80 is already pretty big IP.

I’d bet/fold $250 on the river. The concept of pot commitment doesn’t apply to rivers. He never has worse if he raises.

What else can he do / would you do? Frontshove river? 3bet shove turn doesn't seem right. Check/raise turn maybe?

Has to bet or shove river