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Spew v Spew WSOP 2/5(deepish) Spew v Spew WSOP 2/5(deepish)

06-03-2015 , 06:52 AM
First I apologize for the misplaced first post.. I mostly lurk this forum so I'm semi-familiar with posters here. Mods can move if necessary.

Full table, most players sitting 1k+.. Buy-in cap 1000.

Villian is around 14k deep when I sit. Mentions he'd been in the game 18hrs. Opening around 40-50% of hands seemingly regardless of position and barreling off with reckless abandon. My plan is to 3-bet a fairly wide polarized range to see how he reacts and adjust accordingly. First 3-bet I make w JJ OTB after V opens MP and 1 call.. Fold/fold. Next orbit Vill opens, I 3bet my button A6s. Flop T62.. I check back and call 2 bets on a 5/T runout and take the pot. Next orbit...


1925 eff.

V opens MP to 30(he's been mixing up his sizing a bit) folds to my button and I 3-bet A5o to 90. He calls.

Flop(185): 335r.
V checks, I bet 105. He quickly makes it 225. I mistakenly toss 325 in the pot and pull back 1 black stating "call". And V snap insists "that's a raise!" A couple minutes of deliberation and a floor ruling has me putting in the min-raise to 345. V instantaneously splashes in a total of 840... I tank.. Thoughts on whole hand/approach to this player/flames welcome.

Last edited by Yermomgoes2college; 06-03-2015 at 07:06 AM. Reason: Forgot sumthin
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06-03-2015 , 10:04 AM
chk back flop and call him down again. seems better than trying to get value from A high esp when we block an ace
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06-03-2015 , 10:31 AM
What did he show down when you won the previous hand w. A6s? I think this is somewhat relevant information.

Very odd spot when he makes is $840, especially considering you verbalized you only wanted to call and V expressed he wanted it to be a raise. He reps very little here, but seems hard to do anything but fold.
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06-03-2015 , 11:26 AM
I would adjust by not 3 betting garbage against the splashy agro guy who doesn't fold.
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06-03-2015 , 11:47 AM
Yes, I also hate this 3 bet. Granted he's spewy but this isn't the spot. Not with A5o.

As played its an obvious fold imo.
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06-03-2015 , 01:13 PM
I love your overall plan to establish an aggressive dynamic.

Once you 3bet twice, showing down a6o the second time, it's time to adjust. This 3rd 3bet sucks imo. If I was villain I would've just 4balled you pre, or called with the plan of c/r a bunch of flops. AP, I think I would roll my eyes and wait for a better spot to get stacks in, but I mean I definitely know players that would rebluff you here, so it's kind of whatever. I think the main error was pre and the first cbet. No way villain is ever folding 66+ here.
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06-03-2015 , 02:45 PM
agree with above post. i think villain adjusted first.
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06-03-2015 , 06:32 PM
Villain is sitting behind $14k after 18 hours?

It is just possible...

… that he is not the fish he wants us to think he is.

Agree with IDPP and nih han.
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06-03-2015 , 07:46 PM
I mean the problem is he could have 66+ and we are behind. If you had say QQ here a ship would be sweet but I just can't see calling being profitable...by announcing we meant to call we basically are saying we have TP.
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06-04-2015 , 07:06 AM
I think pre 3b sucks. Its a good 3b hand against a TAG (who knows the fold button) because 1) card removal 2) they play strfwd in 3b pots, esp in oop. Thes guy wont play strfwd.

As played flop ch beh is better because u can induce bluffing (and I think you should call on turn/river)

I dont think its a good spot to start leveling war.
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06-04-2015 , 08:09 AM
Looks good to me. Mistake probably will only cost u the minimum.

Now call.
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06-04-2015 , 09:55 AM
I think the hand is fine up to the point where you accidentally three-bet (sounds like a pretty sick floor ruling too...). You can tell if the villain is adjusting by seeing whether he stops raising all kinds of **** hands. The adjustment to an aggressive player behind you is to tighten up your range, not to spew off more chips with crap.

AP, I think you should just fold unless you're in villain's head and see he's bluffing too much here.
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06-04-2015 , 12:32 PM
why is it a sick floor ruling if we put the money in without verbalizing call? We can't go oops and take a black off the top later. We put almost a full raise in, the floor was right to call it a min raise unless we had already verbalized a call.

I think it's a fold.

I also think there's merit here to checking flop or betting smaller the first time with the logic that you can just call him down after you show weakness. You also have the ability to bluff when paint hits.
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