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Spazzz or Profitbale Bluff??? Spazzz or Profitbale Bluff???

05-24-2019 , 07:52 AM
Hero's image- 6 hours into the session and hero has roughly 1500 in front of him. I am by far the most aggressive at the table. No players at the table are exploiting me.

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Hero (CO) - AQ raises to 12$

V1 300$ effective (BTN) - calls 12$

folds to v2

V2 (BB) - 3 bets to 45$

hero and v1 both call 45$

pot= 136$

Flop- J 6 2

v2 (BB) - checks

Hero- as played I check does anyone get behind leading and if so why?

v1 (BTN) - checks

Turn - 6

v2 (BB) - checks again

hero- bets 85$

v1 (BTN)- calls 85$

v2 (BB) folds

pot= 306$

River- 3

Hero- bets 200$ putting v1 all in
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05-24-2019 , 08:54 AM
With remaining Villain in position, I think it's spazz given what you say your image is and assuming V1 is aware of it.

I think you get looked up by a lot of QQ with Q or scared non-nut flushes. I think slow-played JJ in position vs. an aggressive player is also possible.

There's probably not too many hands like KJ with K that he'll have, but you would know better if that's in V1's range. If it is and that's what you're targeting, I think you can bet a little bit smaller on the river and get the same effect (maybe $125?)

Last edited by Leroy2DaBeroy; 05-24-2019 at 08:55 AM. Reason: misread PF action
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05-24-2019 , 08:56 AM
BB put in the 3 bet and then didn't bet flop so a bet then would be fine.

After that it's all about reading players. What is in button's range for calling turn? Can you really represent anything that beats his range after checking flop? How often is button on a missed flush draw? Missed draws should be unlikely in a 3 bet pot on this board, particularly since you have the ace.

In general though this isn't a good bluffing situation after you check flop. You called the 3 bet then didn't bet flop, your turn bet looks a lot like a steal or semi-bluff. It would be easy for one of the villains to be in call down mode at that point.
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05-24-2019 , 09:39 AM
I had v1 with a button range of 77-10 with maybe KQ with also Jx suited J10 etc

he shouldn't have to many 6x plus with 2 6s out there its less combos now

whats are value range by leading flop what hands do you have here that would lead right away. I felt like I check most of my range on flop im not sure tho
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05-24-2019 , 10:24 AM
Some additional reads would be helpful, like your opponents' aggression factors and post flop tendencies. Overall though, I don't think this is a profitable bluff.

What hand are you trying to represent exactly? You shouldn't have any 6s in your range after PF action and not betting the flop makes it even more unlikely, as well as making a J unlikely. Especially if your image is as aggressive as you say.

Aside from the flush draw, the board is pretty dry and static. The river is a super blank and there weren't a lot of draws to begin with aside from the prior stated flush draw, of which you block a lot of V's possible combos.

What possible hands does V call your turn bet with but then fold on the river after that blank hits? You're not really telling a consistent story after capping yourself preflop and then not betting the flop when checked to. Especially not with an aggressive image which makes the likelihood of you slow playing even less.
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05-24-2019 , 10:54 AM
v1 is pretty new to the table

I have many Ax in my range given v2 who 3 bet had roughly 700 in front of him

so Ax hands go up in value being deep

obv against good thinking players this is a polarized bet

but the majority of the 1/2 player pool is so weak they aren't really thinking on that level

just straight up aggression gets it done for the most part

v1 on the turn seemed very indecisive although he could have been leveling me but in the moment it seemed genuine

he seemed very uncomfortable

I also will have 76 56 suited in position given the 3 bet came from a tag player who only does that with top value hands so those low suited connectors you can easily realize your equity since his range is capped

although I don't know if that would still be the right play since we are in the middle of two villains

heads up I would say that's an all day call
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05-24-2019 , 11:07 AM
Since V2 checked the flop, I bet it. You should have some FE plus you can build a pot in case you bink.

Any reads on V1? If he's passive or scared money and will fold most hands, it's fine. If he's station-y or a non-believer, it's spazz.

He should fold a lot of hands, though. (I prefer this line after betting the flop.)

Edit: I must have been posting when you were or didn't refresh. If he seems scared and indecisive, it's a good bluff.
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05-25-2019 , 06:08 AM
Fold pre, bet flop, give up river.

You rep very little after checking flop.
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05-25-2019 , 08:17 AM
You never have value after checking flop... why not bet flop shove turn its so much better now what hand do you play like this?
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